2025·03·29 We Will Have Justice Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Our Turn

[Yes, I did this one just after the election. But it was too cathartic to just throw away.]

We’ve often seen that quote from David Plouffe: “It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.”

This was of course a declaration of intent to annihilate not just Trump, but rather “his kind.”

You know what? I think we should flip it around. David Plouffe’s kind should be destroyed thoroughly and their kind must not rise again.

What is Plouffe’s kind? I suppose it depends on who’s talking and what they are thinking of in particular. Well, at the moment it’s me talking and I am thinking of the sort of maggot who is attracted to politics not to better his world but rather so that he can wield power over others, or line their pockets with “free” money. Often these people end up as what Ayn Rand called “pull peddlers,” receiving money in exchange for using their connections to do favors.

This type is parasitic. Utterly parasitic. And they should be destroyed thoroughly and not allowed to rise again.

The bad news is we will never eradicate them. Useless turds who can’t do anything productive will always be with us. As will the outright sociopaths.

Of course they find Trump to be their enemy. And of course they find us to be their enemy. If we won’t simply lie down and let our “betters” have their way with us, we’re a problem, we’re something to be got rid of. And of late, we haven’t lain down without a protest, as we are “supposed” to do. Dang uppity Garbage Deplorables! We don’t know our place!!!

The good news is we can provide far fewer niches for these parasites. The niches come into being when something that people formerly did of their own free will is taken over by the government; then every aspect of that activity becomes a political football.

Take for instance education. Since the government runs it, if you don’t like what’s being done, you have to form a political movement and try to work your way around the maggots embedded in the bureaucracy. If education were private, then if you didn’t like what they were doing to your child, you’d take your money and your child elsewhere. And people who didn’t even have school-age children presently would have no voice–and not have to pay money. Making it a government “thing” turned it into a political thing, and the maggots began to swarm.

So we wreck them by seriously cutting government and giving them fewer places to exist. Among all of the other benefits, the body politic would have fewer sociopaths and parasites in it.

People like Plouffe are the same type, but they are the full-on political hacks who set policy, rather than implement it. They’re just as bad if not worse; they help government grow, and steer it into serving its own ends, rather than those of the people it is supposed to be serving.

The Deep State is nothing more than a government that serves its own ends.

And we have had enough of this.

They must be destroyed thoroughly, and their kind must not rise again.

This election wasn’t the end, it was the beginning. There are millions of these malignancies in this country and we’ve just defeated two of them. Keep pushing. Now we can go after them wholesale.

It’s our turn.

Our turn.

Our turn.

OUR TURN!

You stole the 2020 election. You’ve mocked and ridiculed and put people in prison and broken people’s lives because you said this thing was stolen. This entire phony thing is getting swept out. Biden’s getting swept out. Kamala Harris is getting swept out. MSNBC is getting swept out. The Justice Department is getting swept out. The FBI is getting swept out. You people suck, okay?! And now you’re going to pay the price for trying to destroy this country.

And I’m going to tell you, we’re going to get to the bottom of where the 600,000 votes [are]. You manufactured them to steal this election from President Trump in 2020. And think what this country would be if we hadn’t gone through the last four years of your madness, okay? You don’t deserve any respect, you don’t deserve any empathy, and you don’t deserve any pity.

And if anybody gives it to you, it’s Donald J. Trump, because he’s got a big heart and he’s a good man. A good man that you’re still gonna try to put in prison on the 26th of this month. This is how much you people suck. Okay? You’ve destroyed his business thing. And he came back.

He came back in the greatest show of political courage, I think, in world history. Like, [Roman statesman] Cincinnatus coming back from the plough [returning to politics to rescue the Roman Republic]. He’s the American Cincinnatus. And what he has done is a profile in courage. We’ve had his back. But I got to tell you, he may be empathetic. He may have a kind heart. He may be a good man. But we’re not. Okay? And you deserve, as Natalie Winters says, not retribution, justice. But you deserve what we call rough Roman justice, and we’re prepared to give it to you.

Steve Bannon, on election night

OUR TURN!!

OUR TURN!!!

January 6 Tapes?

Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.

For all your high talk about your Christian moral background…you’re looking less and less like you have any kind of moral background.

If You are a Patriot and Don’t Loathe RINOs…

Let’s talk about RINOs, and why they are the lowest form of life in politics.

Many patriots have been involved with politics, often at the grassroots, for decades. We’ve fought, and fought, and fought and won the occasional illusory small victory.

Yet we can’t seem to win the war, even when we have BIG electoral wins.

I am reminded of something. The original Star Trek had an episode titled Day of the Dove. It was one of the better episodes from the third season, but any fan of the original series will tell you that’s a very low bar. Still, it seems to get some respect; at a time when there were about 700 episodes of Star Trek in its various incarnations out there, it was voted 99th best out of the top 100.

In sum, the plot is that an alien entity has arranged for 39 Enterprise crew, and 39 Klingons, to fight each other endlessly with swords and other muscle-powered weapons. The entity lives off of hostile emotions, you see and it wants a captive food source. (The other 400 or so Enterprise crew are trapped below decks and unable to help.) Each side has its emotions played and amplified by the alien entity; one Enterprise junior officer has false memories implanted of a brother who was killed by Klingons. The brother didn’t even exist.

Even people killed in a sword fight miraculously heal so they can go do it again.

The second best line of the episode is when Kang, the Klingon captain, notes that though they have won quite a number of small victories including capturing Engineering, can’t seem to actually finally defeat the Enterprise crew. He growls, “What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*”

Indeed. He may have been the bad guy, but his situation should sound familiar.

We are a majority in this country. We have a powerful political party in our corner. There is endless wrangling.

And yet,

What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?

In our case, that power is the RINOs in our midst. They specialize in caving when on the verge of victory. Think of Obamacare’s repeal failing…by one Republican vote. Think of the way we can never seem to get spending under control (and now our entire tax revenue goes to pay interest on the debt; anything the government actually does now is with borrowed money).

We have a party…that refuses to do what we want it to do, and that refusal is institutionalized. If you’ve been involved with GOP politics, but haven’t seen this, it’s because you refuse to see it. Or because you are part of the problem yourself. (If so, kindly gargle some red fuming nitric acid to clear the taste of shit out of your mouth, and let those not part of the problem alone so they can read this.)

We fight to elect people, who then take a dive when in office. But it’s not just the politicians in office, it’s the people behind the scenes, the leaders of the national, state and county branches of the party. Their job is to ensure that real patriots never get onto the general election ballot. They’re allowed a few failures…who can then become token conservatives who will somehow never manage to win (Jordan), or can be compromised outright (Lauren Boebert?).

That way it doesn’t actually matter who has a congressional majority. I remember my excitement when the GOP took the Senate in 1980. But all that did was empower a bunch of “moderate” puddles of dog vomit like…well for whatever reason forty years later the most memorable name is Pete Domenici. And a couple of dozen other “moderates” who simply had no interest in doing what grassroots people in their party–those same grassroots people who had worked so hard to elect them–wanted them to do.

Oh, they’ll put up a semblance of a fight…but never win. And they love it when we fight the Dems instead of fighting them. Just like that alien entity, whose motto surely was “Let’s you and him fight. It’ll be delicious!”

If you think about it, your entire political involvement has come to nothing because of these walking malignant tumors.

That should make you good and mad.

The twenty five who blocked Jordan, and the hundred people who took that opportunity to stab Jordan in the back in the secret ballot should make you good and mad.

I’ll close this with another example of RINO backstabbing, an infuriating one close to home.

In my county, the GOP chair is not a RINO. She got elected when the grassroots had had enough of the RINOs. Unfortunately the state organization is full of RINOs, and the ousted county RINOs have been trying to form a new “Republican Party” and get the state GOP to recognize them as the affiliate. I’m honestly amazed it hasn’t happened yet.

In other words those shitstains won’t just leave when they get booted out; they’ll try to destroy what they left behind. It’s an indication that they know we know how important that behind-the-scenes party power is.

So they must be destroyed. That’s the only way they’ll ever stop.

We cannot win until the leeches “on our side” get destroyed.

What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*

We know it. What is going to be done about it?

*NOTE: The original line was actually “What power is it that supports our battle yet starves our victory.” I had mis-remembered it as feeds. When I checked it, it sure enough was “supports” and that’s what I originally quoted. On further reflection, though, I realized my memory was actually an improvement over the reality, because feeds is a perfect contrast with starves. I changed it partway through the day this originally posted, but now (since this is a re-run) it gets rendered this way from the start.

If one must do things wrong, one should do them wrong…right.

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the RINOs stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?

Justice

It says “Justice” on the picture.

And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.

But what is it?

Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.

Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):

Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.

Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.

—Ayn Rand Lexicon (aynrandlexicon.com)

Justice Must Be Done.

Trump, it is supposed, had some documents.

Biden and company stole the country.

I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2024 or 2026 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Martin Luther King

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice

President Donald Trump, 20 January 2017 (The “Dark” Inauguration Speech).

[NOTE: Yes, technically this is something I should delete since it’s not January 18th any more and it is dated, but I decided to give it one more run, because some things said here don’t depend on what’s showing on the page-a-day calendar.]

….But I’ll still say something about MLK. He was a decidedly mixed individual. As are we all. But I think he, and many others of his time, did something important and unpleasant; he (and those others) forced a recognition that even after the Civil War we were being hypocritical on the subject of equality under the law. Those people who descended from those who (shall we say) involuntarily migrated to what is now the United States were still getting the shitty end of the stick in many parts of this country, as a matter of law.

He was one hundred percent correct on that.

Unfortunately his successors have turned the point full circle and want a leg up from the law, supposedly to make up for the past mistreatment, but that can only lead to an endless round of back and forth. There are some signs that MLK himself had he not been killed (he would be turning 96 this year were he still alive), would have been right alongside the race baiters (which include some who were with him), other signs that he wouldn’t have.

But just as Thomas Jefferson penned these words, in spite of owning slaves, the words that eventually shamed us into abolishing the “peculiar institution”:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…

I’ll go with what Martin Luther King said…not all that far from where the Inauguration will take place:

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Emphasis mine. Judge people by the content of their character.

That is as it should be.

I see that at Trump rallies. His words about opening hearts to patriotism were true.

I see nothing but reverse racism on the Left. To them the world is defined by what one group does to another, some group must be on top shitting on everyone else. And it shows. There’s a false dichotomy in their thinking. Either white shits on black, or black shits on white. The way to deal with this false dichotomy, though, is not to gin up a third “group” to make it a trichotomy, or a fourth group to make it, what, a tetrachotomy? quadrichotomy? Is either of those actually a word? Gee maybe we can have a different group on top every week of the year at least until some jackass makes up a 53rd group! (Let’s leave aside the one or two day remainder you get from dividing 365(or 6) by 7. These are leftists studying critical race theory, not mathematicians.)

How about we do something different? How about we work towards a system where the law shits on NO ONE except those who violate the rights of others?

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $3,024.40
Silver $33.10
Platinum $988.00
Palladium $984.00
Rhodium $6,100.00
FRNSI* 145.305+
Gold:Silver 91.372-

This week, at Friday close:

Gold $3,085.20
Silver $34.17
Platinum $993.00
Palladium $994.00
Rhodium $6,275.00
FRNSI* 148.247-
Gold:Silver 90.290-

Gold went up bigly, including on Friday. Silver was doing very well but dropped 29 cents on Friday. Nevertheless it too is up this week, enough to pull the Gold:Silver ratio down a bit So silver might finally be waking up.

And of course the FRNSI is up, and is now threatening the 150 mark.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

The Final Experiment

Jeran, formerly one of the biggest figures in the Flat Earth movement, is now talking against it.

His favorite bit of evidence that there is indeed curvature is filming SpaceX launches from a great distance, and noting that the rocket ascent is not visible until well over a minute after launch. (He also captures a live feed from the launch facility, so he knows when the launch actually happened.) He’ll then continue filming for at least that long again, measure how far the rocket is above the horizon, and state that it must have been that far below the horizon at launch. At least that was what he was saying the last time I checked in on his channel (he has a livestream every Friday evening).

The problem is that’s not quite right. This is a good piece of evidence for earth curvature, but he’s overstating the effect. He is (or was) making a mistaken assumption. He’s failing to account for the fact that the rocket is accelerating.

If something starts accelerating at a constant rate from a stationary state, in the first interval, call it t, it will cover a certain distance. In the following interval of the same length, from t to 2t, it will cover three times the distance it covered in the first interval, not the same distance as Jeran is (or was) assuming.

The general formula for where an object will be at time t under constant acceleration is (assuming one dimensional motion, like on a railroad track):

d = 1/2 at2 + vit + di

The vi and di are the initial speed and position.

Let’s say it’s not accelerating at all, but is moving at (say) 30 m/s at the initial time, and started 10 meters away from wherever your reference zero is. That formula becomes:

d = 30t + 10.

So after one second, you’re 40 meters from the start, after two seconds, you’re 70 meters from the start, and so on. Makes sense.

In the case of the rocket, it’s going straight up at least initially, and is stationary, initially. Measuring altitude from the launch pad makes your initial position zero also, and so you have:

d = 1/2 at2

We don’t know a, but we’re assuming (for now) that it does not change.

We also will just measure t in “intervals”

So after one interval:

d = 1/2 at2
d = 1/2 a(1)2
d = 1/2 a

After two intervals:

d = 1/2 at2
d = 1/2 a(2)2
d = 1/2 ax4
d = 2 a

Note that the second distance is four times as great as the first (and includes that first distance), so during the second interval it traveled 3 times further than it did in the first interval.

I tried to find Jeran’s email address to point this out, but you have to subscribe to his channel to be able to see it.

It’s possibly even more skewed than this, though, because it’s quite possible that the rocket’s acceleration is itself increasing. It has a particular thrust, but is becoming lighter as it burns fuel. The same force acting on a decreasing mass will cause an increasing acceleration. I have no idea whether SpaceX is throttling the rocket back or not to counter this; but these are unmanned launches so there’s no particular reason to do so, unless there’s some reason introduced by the rocket being in the atmosphere in the early phases of the launch.

The Flerfer response to this demo by Jeran is to insist that there must be a cloudbank between him and the launches, blocking his view for the first part of the trajectory. If so this is an amazingly consistent cloudbank that only (and always) appears for night launches.

Some Go-Backs

I’ve been “researching” a bit. (I put “research” in quotes because I’m watching YouTube videos.) And I’ve learned something that slightly changes what I said last week.

Zircon crystals apparently melt at a staggering 2500 C. I knew that they had a high melting point but this is insane.

A zircon crystal, once formed, is unlikely to be melted again. As such even when found in (say) a granite which formed at a mere 1000 C or so, it’s probably a left over zircon, just like it would be if it were found in a sedimentary rock. It’s what they call a xenolith.

Thus when trying to date an igneous rock, you generally don’t want to use the zircons, which means you will not want to do uranium-lead dating, at least not in the way I described. Geologists know this, by the way, so they don’t do this unless they actually want to date the zircon crystal itself (which they wanted to do for those rocks from the Jack Hills, as well as similar formations elsewhere around the world).

This does not deter creationists from doing it though, submitting zircons as well as other bits of the same rock. They then point to the difference of ages that (predictably) results and complain that radioisotopic dating doesn’t work.

It works fine if used properly; this is sabotage.

Bonus

Two (long!) videos on Andrew Snelling, Answers in Genesis’s pet lying bastard of a geologist. They are done by someone working under the nom de video (if that’s a term) Dapper Dinosaur. Evidently he wishes to remain anonymous. I can understand that. Both are videos where he is reacting to talks given by Snelling. The first from three years ago

Probably the biggest single whopper here (though he does it multiple times) is talking about chalk beds and limestone as flood deposits. Nope, they only form in calm waters (never under flood conditions) and much too slowly, like a thousand years per centimeter, even under ideal conditions. Dapper Dinosaur says, near the end (1:50:25), “Let’s be clear here. This talk alone would be enough to get Andrew Snelling expelled from any academic institution of any repute. Or, if he had tenure, to ensure that he was never taken seriously again. And to be fair, no scientists do take him seriously. Just Young Earth larpers.”

A newer one, from three months ago. In both cases Dapper Dinosaur took a number of shorter videos had done and combined them.

I’ve yet to find a single “professional” young earth creationist who did not, on closer inspection, turn out to be a liar or at best a specialist in some other topic who might just not know what he’s talking about with whatever topic he happens to be discussing right now.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250327 & National Security


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and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. — Galatians 5:1


We got our miracle.
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Let us dedicate ourselves to the cleansing, healing, and rebuilding of our beautiful nation.

God will guide us.
Prayers & thanks to God for President Donald J. Trump.


National Security!

It’s “their” very favorite playbook. They want to some how, some way, create another narrative that makes everything related to president, Donald J. Trump, into a “National Security Crisis!”


Well, do you know what a real national security crisis looks like? It looks like the election systems in all 50 states having a total loss of control.

“We identified, inside of the state’s official records about the 2022 and the 2020 elections, millions and millions of examples of what appear to be felony misconduct, according to the United States Department of Justice’s guidelines for prosecution of election offenses.” — Marly Hornick, in this interview

While we may need an Executive Order to act as a stop-gap for the 2026 Elections–which are nearly on top of us at this point–the real work of securing our elections must be done at the state level. And it appears state officials will only be motivated when they see that Federal prosecutions could be in their near future.

I very much appreciate that the E.O. deals with an issue found in some voting systems. A human readable ballot and a true paper trail are essential for a secure elections system.

“Above all, elections much be honest and worthy of the public trust. That requires voting methods that produce a voter-verifiable paper record allowing voters to efficiently check their votes to protect against fraud or mistake. Election-integrity standards much be modified accordingly.”

“… voting systems should not use a ballot in which a vote is contained within a barcode or quick-response code in the vote counting process … [with an exception for accommodating disabilities] … and should provide a voter-verifiable paper record to prevent fraud or mistake.”

The “follow the money” types amongst us are likely to be happy to see the E.O. provide direction for an audit of all Help America Vote Act (HAVA) fund expenditures.

“Following an audit of Help America Vote Act fund expenditures conducted pursuant to 52 U.S.C. 21142, the Election Assistance Commission shall report any discrepancies or issues with an audited State’s certifications of compliance with Federal law to the Department of Justice for appropriate enforcement action.”

And for those of us who were concerned with the word “voluntary” in the Election Assistance Commission’s guidelines, it looks like there might be some teeth in the E.O. here:

“The Secretary of Homeland Security and the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, consistent with applicable law, shall in considering the provision of funding for State or local election offices or administrators through the Homeland Security Grant Programs, 6 U.S.C. 603 et seq., heavily prioritize compliance with the Voluntary Voting System Guidelines 2.0 developed by the Election Assistance Commission and completion of testing through the Voting System Test Labs accreditation process.”

That’s really all nice and everything, but is this going to be another here-today-gone-tomorrow news event? Well, rescinding all previous certifications of voting equipment based on prior standards sounds good.

“Within 180 days of the date of this order, the Election Assistance Commission shall take appropriate action to review and, if appropriate, re-certify voting systems under the new standards established under subsection (b)(i) of this section, and to rescind all previous certifications of voting equipment based on prior standards.”

There are also important sections on not counting votes cast after election day (duh!), validating that voters are citizens, preventing foreign interference and prosecuting election crimes.

The section on improving the security of voting systems reminds us that election infrastructure is designated as “Critical Infrastructure.” Note that non-citizens are not to be involved in the administration of any Federal Election. I wonder how many voting system contractors that you see at the local elections office are non-citizens. Do they even check?

The E.O. goes on to task Homeland Security with assessing the security of electronic elections systems and report on what they find. I suspect this doesn’t go far enough. If there are non-electronic procedures that are not subject to review for Federal Elections that allow for fraud, that should be addressed to. Maybe it’s in existing law and I missed it.

“Sec. 6. Improving Security of Voting Systems. To improve the security of all voting equipment and systems used to cast ballots, tabulate votes, and report results:

“(a) The Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall take all appropriate actions to the extent permitted by 42 U.S.C. 5195c and all other applicable law, so long as the Department of Homeland Security maintains the designation of election infrastructure as critical infrastructure, as defined by 42 U.S.C. 5195c(e), to prevent all non-citizens from being involved in the administration of any Federal election, including by accessing election equipment, ballots, or any other relevant materials used in the conduct of any Federal election.

“(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall, in coordination with the Election Assistance Commission and to the maximum extent possible, review and report on the security of all electronic systems used in the voter registration and voting process. The Secretary of Homeland Security, as the head of the designated Sector Risk Management Agency under 6 U.S.C. 652a, in coordination with the Election Assistance Commission, shall assess the security of all such systems to the extent they are connected to, or integrated into, the Internet and report on the risk of such systems being compromised through malicious software and unauthorized intrusions into the system.”

As the introductory text reminds us:

Free, fair, and honest elections unmarred by fraud, errors, or suspicion are fundamental to maintaining our constitutional Republic. The right of American citizens to have their votes properly counted and tabulated, without illegal dilution, is vital to determining the rightful winner of an election. Under the Constitution, State governments must safeguard American elections in compliance with Federal laws that protect Americans’ voting rights and guard against dilution by illegal voting, discrimination, fraud, and other forms of malfeasance and error.

You can find the entire text at WhiteHouse.gov.


We have been told that our elections systems are insecure. But what does that really mean? Three weeks ago, Marly Hornik of United Sovereign Americans gave a powerful 15 minute speech on the Stern American podcast, explaining how truly bad America’s situation has become.

My name is Marly Hornick, founder of the national election validity Organization United Sovereign Americans, along with cyber and election security subject matter expert Harry Haury. We came here to warn our fellow Americans that we have a constitutional and legal disaster on our hands.

The current election process nationwide is an uncontrolled, unmonitored catastrophe that is false returns. The last bastion of freedom on earth is at risk of being destroyed as early as 2026. 

Under President Trump’s decisive leadership, we see the proof that our own government has been selling out our kids’ future by stealing trillions of dollars per year from the American people and making us pay for their often twisted agenda.

Nowhere have officials betrayed us as badly as in our elections nationwide. USA is the first organization to measure election misconduct as defined under criminal law, to deeply study Supreme Court precedent and document the scale of defined election fraud nationwide.

After years of law enforcement meetings, official reports, legislative hearings, criminal referrals, and staggering trial-ready evidence, massive election fraud is still being illegally certified as accurate. Asking whether election officials are bad people is irrelevant. Their job is to prevent fraud, and they are legally required to prove it to us. That’s what we pay them for.

Twenty-one chief election officials have been fully briefed, nine have been sued in federal court, and every last one has proven disloyal to the sovereign they serve, the American people, and to the contract we made with our government, the United States Constitution.

USA has tracked tens of millions of individual felonies. We were the first to discover and document the algorithms and central vote manipulation. We filed our detailed data with the states, the FBI, Homeland Security, and the DOJ under the previous administration, and filed nine federal lawsuits demanding that election commissions follow the law.

And what did we prove? Every last federalized state election official believes that they are the sovereign, that they are the one who chooses our representatives. Every last one, they are perfectly content to continue violating our Constitution down to the root. It’s time to make it personal.

This is our land, from sea to shining sea, self-dealing bureaucrats and criminals did not create it, and they cannot have it.

(link to full Rumble video here & link to transcript here)


The top elections official of every one of our 50 states has been certifying elections that are run using equipment and processes that are deeply compromised. The courts, to this point, have refused to touch it. Pray.


Our Turn.

We can make a difference.
And we must make a difference.

May God bless and guide you
as you pray and take action for our nation.


Twitterati, etc.

May I recommend to you @PressSec. Karoline Leavitt is an Assistant to the President and the White House Press Secretary. She is always in top form, even on the day after DS tries to create another “National Security Crisis!” narrative on the thinnest of pretexts.


Prayer.

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.


KMAG 2025326 OPEN TOPIC & Operation Gladio Cont.

I said when I saw this YouTube on Monday, that I would explain why I agree with Colonel Towner about Mike Benz.


BOMBSHELL: Obama’s Smith-Mundt Move LEGALIZED PROPAGANDA in U.S.! With TAXPAYER MONEY!

In 1948, Congress authorized taxpayer funds to manipulate the news cycle overseas. However, the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 established a “Chinese wall” between the propaganda spread overseas to help ensure various powers were elected and what was allowed to be spread here at home. In 2012, Obama “modernized” the act, resulting in the ability to use USAID funds and other vehicles to influence the news cycle here at home. Trish Regan reports that this was the beginning of the end and gave the “establishment” an unreasonable amount of power.


Trish Regan shows clips of Mike Benz. If you look at what is said through Gladio Glasses, you can see why Colonel Towner does not like Benz.

From my point of view he is a classic Limited Hangout

Limited Hangout is a CIA information control tool, it involves the fake ‘disclosure’ of some secret, inside of a limited view; 👉such that related things would not be questioned.  The Agency likes to create the ‘opposition’ which is in fact controlled opposition – an early lesson learned.  The easiest way to infiltrate a counter insurgency, is to start one from scratch (causality).

It is not that he does not bring good information, it is that the information does not add all that much to what we already know. He gives us great details but nothing really new.


For me the big tell is he does not connect the ‘Arab Spring’ to Britain and the Fabian Society. (I cover that in detail towards the end of this article.)


The Communism vs ‘Democracy’ fight was ALWAYS a manufactured fight — Hegelian Dialectic – The No. 1 Tool of the Cabal. Up until the Soviet Union Collapsed the Communists were the designated ‘Boogeyman’ The ‘communism’ label was used to justify the overthrow of any government that did not allow the Transnational Corporations to come in an rape their country.

This painting by Diego Rivera, “Gloriosa Victoria,” tells the story of the 1954 overthrow of the democratically-elected Jacobo Arbenz government. Coup Colonel Carlos Castillo Armas greets secretary of state John Foster Dulles, who holds a bomb with the face of Eisenhower, surrounded by people who were murdered in the coup. To his left is U.S. ambassador John Peurifoy with military officers and CIA director Allen W. Dulles whispering in his brother’s ear. On the right, the archbishop of Guatemala, Mariano Rossell Arellano, blesses the act, while Guatemalans protest. — Guatemala, United Fruit & the CIA


However we can not leave out the British connection. Their goal was to advance ‘The Third Way’ and a one-world ANGLO OLIGARCHY RULED government. The USA provides cannon fodder and money, while NATO & the Brits provide the top down direction. Note it is the BRITS that have continually stalled any peace between Russia and Ukraine.

History of the London School of Economics

….Anthony Giddens, the former Director of the LSE, stands as the creator of the “Third Way”followed by both Tony Blair (who unveiled the Fabian Window at LSE in 2005) and Bill Clinton. His policy created a balance between the traditional welfare state and the belief in total free market economics. This policy is being put into effect by governments all across the world as free market economies continue to deal with wealth inequalities and bettering the welfare of the general population… 🤮


E. M. Smith explained it in 2011 in “Evil Socialism” vs “Evil Capitalism”

….The USA until about 1990 was a “Mixed Economy” with some “natural monopolies” under government “control” via “regulation”; and with many competitive markets. We’ve moved to more central planning and more central “regulation” (in some cases as a cover for the “planning” word that has gotten tied to Socialism… so is political to some extent). With the nationalization of GM and the bank “bailout” / “rescue” that was really more of a ‘take-under’ in some ways; we moved to a Lange Type Socialism.

At the next tier down, we have Government-dependent Oligopolies. Say you wanted to make airplanes. First off, you need that dozen lawyers to work the FAA for you. Next up, you need some friends in the Military to feed you contracts. Don’t think so? When Boeing gets a $B contract to ‘study’ or ‘develop’ and you need to design your new tech from scratch on your own money: Who do you think will win? So the government basically decides how many companies it wants, and who they will be, then funds them “to plan” with contracts. (This is NOT a hypothetical… I’ve watched them flat out announce “We’d like Lockheed and Martin to merge” or “we don’t want…” usually when one of them is ‘having issues’ and the topic is raised. Then the government casts the one vote that matters…)

And so it goes…

This is, dare I say it…. basically the same way the Fascist “Third Way” worked. (And it DOES work). FDR and Wilson both had high praise for The Third Way and you can see how they shifted America from a ‘free market’ toward “Third Way” government – corporation “cooperation” … It was this same process / tendency that Ike warned about in the “Military Industrial Complex” speech.

So we’ve moved away from straight up competition (and with good reasons… it is less profitable and more destructive in some ways and it is prone to monopoly practices) and toward that Classical Socialist end of things; with exact placement varying over time. And we called it a “Mixed Economy” at the ‘tepid’ end; as the name “fascist Third Way” got a bit tainted during W.W.II …. that tendency for Mussolini and Hitler to stir in a load of Nationalism and for the Nazis a double helping of Racism spoiled the soup for the Third Way “Socialist Lite” folks like FDR.

And the propaganda worked.

We’ve now got a “Progressive” and a “Third Way” government that IS a form of Socialism. But just don’t ever point out that it’s basically the same “Third Way” process, using what’s properly called “Corporatism”, to achieve the Socialist agenda; that was first innovated by the Fascists… After all, it doesn’t fit the propaganda paradigm “Fascists bad, WORLD Socialists good” put out by Stalin…


This connection between fascists, transnational corporations, and financiers is why I have gone into Mercantilism so deeply. Colonel Towner starts looking at history from WWII on, but the roots go back to the British Empire and the British East India Company.


I first ran across the references to who was actually financing the Bolsheviks and Hitler here: Congressman McFadden’s Speech in1934 before the attempts on his life and the final successful one resulting in his murder……

…These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky’s passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky’s disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. “Mr. Chairman, there should be no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country…

All the evidence for McFadden’s claim is written down in meticulous detail in books by Anthony C Sutton titled “The Wall Street Trilogy” which is a compilation of three works by Sutton.

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution”
“Wall Street and FDR”
“Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler”


Colonel Towner gives some of the details found in Sutton’s books. She calls the Hegelian Dialectic, [Problem – Reaction — Solution,] The Strategy of Tension

Colonel Towner: Oh I can even tell you the names!, I have articles pinned. We can get into the details probably in the second show. I can give you the names of the CIA agents that were focusing on this and the DEA agent ?Anglinger? Or what ever. The first guy who was in charge of the precursor of the DEA, he is on record saying, that every major drug bust that they did, they were never able to get the top echelon because they were ALL CIA AGENTS! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. The ones who get arrested and held accountable are the low level guys. Wait til I get to the ‘War on Drugs’ (47 Min)

The second stage of all of this for me was figuring out — Well I have got who is doing it, this British Fabian — Round Table Crowd. So how did Communism and Fascism enter into the picture? You have to go back and read Antony C. Sutton‘s books “Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution” and “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler” and “Wall Street and FDR: The True Story of How Franklin D. Roosevelt Colluded with Corporate America” I highly recommend reading his trilogy, they are not that thick.

There is an address in NYC called 120 Broadway. It is where the Fed was, it was where FDRs first office was, the Boys Club, the Dinner Club, the Rockefeller’s office is, the Rothschilds, the banks, JP Morgan, They are ALL in this building. They orchestrate EVERYTHING out of this building. They do not have to go outside. They funded the Bolsheviks.

Trotsky lived in NYC for several years waiting for the war to end so he could plant the Bolshevik flag.… The Russian civil war in the early 1900s was actually instigated. The were generals that wanted a national referendum, a democracy. Well that was not going to be allowed. Those generals were murdered by people who came from the USA or Britain. The money for the Bolsheviks cam from 120 Broadway and London UK. London housed Lenin, NYC, housed Trotsky. Trotsky went from USA to Canada to Russia on a State Department Visa. [When Canada tried to stop him, the USA intervened -GC] Lenin left London went thru Germany, thru Finland into Russia. London & US facilitated the creation of Bolshevik “Communism.” (50 min)

They did the same thing with Nazism. When Hitler is in prison, Do you know who ‘paid’ to help him write Mein Kempf? We did! We took money from 120 Broadway. Anthony Sutton has the actual transactions because they were carried in diplomatic pouches thru the State Department to transfer the money to pay for his ‘Aide’ to write that doctrine. The Reichstadt fire was a false flag…. It was all set up to create Martial law and usher in Hitler….

I say that because it is important to understand under the Strategy of Tension, if you don’t have chaos and control, then you can not manipulate people….

This critical information about WHO is actually in control of the USA is left completely out of anything I have seen from Mike Benz.


Mike Benz was in the State Department. We now know that the State Department is deeply entangled with the CIA. Second he is pushing the Communist Boogeyman. Communism has ALWAYS been AstroTurf. Remove the funding and it dies. As Margret thatcher said:

Here are quotes from the Mike Benz interview with Tucker Carlson. He talks of the CIA, the State Department, Department of Homeland Security, The Fake News, Atlantic Council, Censorship… ALL the stuff we ALREADY KNOW. He does a very nice job of fleshing it out but he skips over the real meat. Operation Gladio, Color Revolutions orchestrated for Corporate gain and as Resource grabs. However for me the big tell is he does not connect the ‘Arab Spring’ to Britain and the Fabian Society.

This is part of a transcript from his interview with Tucker Carlson. You can go here for a link to the video and the rest of the transcript.

Mike Benz: Uncensored: The National Security State & the Inversion of Democracy

…We quickly discovered, through the efforts of the Defense Department, the State Department in our intelligence services, that people were using the internet to congregate on blogs and forums, and free speech was championed more than anybody by the Pentagon, the State Department, and our sort of CIA cut out NGO blob architecture 👉as a way to support dissident groups around the world in order to help them overthrow authoritarian governments, as they were sort of billedEssentially the internet free speech allowed kind of instant regime change operations, to be able to facilitate the foreign policy establishment’s State Department agenda….

All these things were created initially as DARPA projects or as joint CIA-NSA projects, to be able to help intelligence-backed groups to overthrow governments that were causing a problem, to the Clinton administration or the Bush administration or the Obama administration. And this plan worked magically from about 1991 until about 2014, when there began to be an about face on internet freedom and its utility. 

👉Now, the high watermark of the sort of internet free speech moment was the Arab Spring in 2011, 2012,👈 when you had this one by one.All of the adversary governments of the Obama administration, Egypt, Tunisia, all began to be toppled in Facebook revolutions and Twitter revolutions. And you had the State Department working very closely with the social media companies to be able to keep social media online during those periods. There was a famous phone call from Google’s Jared Cohen to Twitter to not do their scheduled maintenance so that, the preferred opposition group in Iran would be able to use Twitter, to win that election…

So it was; free speech was an instrument of statecraft from the national security state to begin with. 👉All of that architecture, all the NGOs, the relationships between the tech companies and the national security state had been long established for freedom.In 2014, after the coup in Ukraine, there was an unexpected counter coup where Crimea and the Donbas broke away and they broke away with essentially a military backstop that NATO was highly unprepared for at the time. They had one last Hail Mary chance, which was the Crimea annexation vote on, in 2014. And when the hearts and minds of the people of Crimea voted, to join the Russian Federation, that was the last straw for the concept of free speech on the internet

In the eyes of NATO as they saw it, the fundamental nature of war changed at that moment. And NATO at that point declared something that they first called the Gerasimov doctrine, which is named after this Russian military, a general, who they claimed made a speech that the fundamental nature of war has changed. You don’t need to win military skirmishes to take over Central and Eastern Europe. All you need to do is control the media and the social media ecosystem, because that’s what controls elections. And if you simply get the right administration into power, they control the military. So it’s infinitely cheaper than conducting a military war to simply conduct an organized political, influence operation over social media. And legacy media and industry had been created that spanned the Pentagon, the the British Ministry of Defense in Brussels into a organized political warfare outfit, essentially infrastructure that was created, initially stationed in Germany and in Central and Eastern Europe to create psychological buffer zones, basically to create the ability to to have the military work with the social media companies, to censor Russian propaganda, or to censor domestic right wing populist groups in Europe who were rising in political power at the time because of the migrant crisis.

So you had the systematic targeting by our State Department, by our [Inter-Service Intelligence], by the Pentagon, of groups like Germany’s AfD, the Alternative for Deutschland there, and for groups in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Now, when Brexit happened in 2016, it was [it created a] crisis moment where suddenly they didn’t have to worry just about Central and Eastern Europe anymore. It was coming westward, this idea of Russian control over hearts and minds….

Now the entire rules-based international order would collapse unless the military took control over media, because Brexit would give rise to “Frexit” in France, with Marine Le Pen to “Spexit” in in Spain with a Vox party to “Italexit” in Italy, to “Grexit” in Germany, to “Grexit” in Greece, the EU would come apart, so NATO would be killed without a single bullet being, being fired. And then not only that, now that NATO is gone, now there’s no enforcement arm for the International Monetary Fund, the IMF or the world Bank. So now the financial stakeholders who depend on the battering ram of the national security state would basically be helpless against governments around the world. So from their perspective, if the military did not begin to censor the internet, every all of the democratic institutions and infrastructure that gave rise to the. World after World War Two would collapse….

The whole push after the 2016 election and after Brexit and after a couple of other, you know, social media run elections that went the wrong way from what the State Department wanted, like the 2016 Philippines election, was to completely invert everything that we described as being the underpinnings of a democratic society in order to deal with the threat of free speech on the internet. And what they essentially said is we need to redefine democracy from being about the will of the voters to being about the sanctity of democratic institutions. And who are the democratic institutions? Oh, it’s us, you know, it’s the military, it’s NATO, it’s the IMF and the World Bank. It’s the mainstream media, who it is, the NGOs. And of course, these NGOs are largely State Department funded or IC funded. It’s essentially all of the elite establishments, that were under threat from the rise of domestic populism that declared their own consensus to be the new definition of democracy. Because if you define democracy as being the strength of democratic institutions rather than a focus on the will of the voters, then what you’re left with is essentially democracy is just the consensus building architecture within the democratic institutions themselves….

As someone in the State Department, I find it hard to believe he is not aware of NATO and the CIA’s connection to Operation Gladio.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Back to my original article. I am sorry for the typos, misspelling and such. I did not have time to edit my first draft. I am hoping that you take the time to read these two articles or watch the video because it explains so much of the current situation.

Last week I left off with this:

[VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

Colonel: Operation Northwood was created, & drafted by CIA, Allen Dulles and General Lyman Lemnitzer chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was an Operation Gladio Event. In it they proposed, to McNamara [secretary of defense] and JFK, — they wanted Cuba back so bad – that Operation Northwood featured all of the major US cities having terror attacks by Stay-behind trained people. The people would be dressed as Cuban Nationalists. They would basically say we had been invaded by Cuba, communism was taking over however the entire time it would be people dressed as Cubans. They were going to kill tens of thousands of Americans to instill fear, so they could do a ground invasion of Cuba.

JFK says absolutely not, we are not doing this. Allen Dulles, just before this, had been fired. Lyman Lemnitzer, in what should have been a demotion and a resignation, JFK thought, was reassigned to NATO.

Colonel: JFK had never been told about Operation Gladio. He had never been told that a sub unit of NATO called ACC [Allied Clandestine Committee – GC], was the planning cell for all Operation Gladio events. Unknowingly JFK put Lemnitzer in charge of Operation Gladio. Why that is important is because…

[END VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

I want to make sure everyone sees this part.

[VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

1:24:50 — Colonel: I want to make one last point.

When we talked about the refugee situation, one of the casualties of that is Human Trafficking and Child Trafficking. If anyone wants to do any research on tying Gladio to that particular topic? I suggest you start in Belgium. Belgium not only has a very robust operation Gladio network, but I want to give you the name of Marc Dutroux. That guy set-up the most hideous child Trafficking Network, using refugees, to blackmail all of the foreign dignitaries, once NATO moved to Belgium. It is all reported.

The Revelations of WikiLeaks: No. 4—The Haunting Case of a Belgian Child Killer and How WikiLeaks Helped Crack It

I also want [to say] in closing, that as you explore this topic, you will see, and I saw it personally when I lived in Italy. In one bomb attack they killed five judges. Initially they killed every investigative reporter. — In Turkey and in Italy and Portugal, in Germany, — If you wrote about Operation Gladio before it broke big in Italy? YOU DIE! If you were part of government and investigated it? YOU DIE. If you try to litigate as a judge. YOU DIE!

There has been so much death and destruction related to Operation Gladio and the exposure of it, that it’s breathtaking. I have never seen anything like it. The depravity is best illustrated when you look at Belgium’s Operation Gladio Network because it is so disgusting.

You have to have all those facets. You have to have Money Laundering. You have to have the Drug [Trafficking.] You have to have the war… And it is all used to feed a global fascist takeover. By us focusing on the WEF and other low hanging fruit you miss the big picture and that is on purpose.

— Brady: The decisions made in the smoke filled rooms in London and NYC, and a little bit in DC as well as a few other major European capitols. These are the names we do not get to know very often. The people that sit on the Council on Foreign Relations are not necessarily the people that sit at the head of the table. They are NOT the Puppet Masters. We know who some of the names are but I do not think we will know all of them. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Shadow State, this is who rules the world.

[END VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

This is the information that Mike Benz is diverting attention from in my opinion.

I am starting from where I left off last week.

[VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

55:40 – 57:30 — Colonel: Unknowingly JFK put Lemnitzer in charge of Operation Gladio. Why that is important is because Operation Gladio, NATO was first stood-up in Paris France. NATO was not in Belgium.

Charles de Gaulle, the president of France, They tried to assassinate him over 20 times.

He had disbanded an organization called OAS, kinda a secret service operators, but they were actually bad people. It had been set-up before de Gaulle took over. He disbands that at the same time he and JFK are talking about giving Algeria, an African county, their freedom back.

BECAUSE OPERATION GLADIO IS TO CREATE THIS FASCIST ONE WORLD ORDER, NEITHER DEGAULLE NOR JFK ARE ALLOWED TO GIVE ALGERIA THEIR FREEDOM. AFRICA IS GOING TO BE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT A SLAVE COLONY.

There is nobody allowed to be free in all of Africa according to their plan.

So the minute de Gaulle, started saying he wanted the French out of Algeria and he wanted to give Algeria their freedom, they started trying to kill them.

57:30 — Brady: This is the OAS…

57:30 – 58:30 — Colonel: Here is the interesting tie to Operation Gladio and JFK. de Gaulle kicks NATO out. He withdraws French forces from NATO. France does not rejoin NATO until 2009.

Within a year, JFK is dead. The day JFK gets assassinated, the Dallas police picks-up a known OAS agent, and escorts him without questioning him, to the border and dumps him off in Mexico. TWO OF THEM. So the same people known to be trying to kill de Gaulle were in Dallas on the same day that JFK gets murdered.

58:30 – 59:00– Brady: I absolutely agree with what you are saying. I have a couple of quotes to add. There was a phone call between de Gaulle and JFK where JFK says, No I had nothing to do with the coup attempt but I can’t speak for my CIA. And then there is a quote from de Gaulle when he came home from JFK’s funeral, He flat out said on French TV, Kennedy was killed by the same security forces that went after me.

59:00 — Colonel: Correct.

— Brady: If anyone has seen The Day of The Jackal, that is what it is all about.

59:05 – 1:01:10 — Colonel: What is interesting about that, is when you go back and start reading things? You go, Oh my God, that is Operation Gladio….

It is not to say everything is, but Operation Gladio explains so much of our history that has been at odds with logic, because you could not see that silent hand in it. They seem to be disconnected but are all somehow tied together.

Operation Gladio is the backbone that ties them all together. We are just talking about history, we are not talking about what [is] going on yet.

…. I was stationed in Italy in 1990. I got off an airplane on August 2nd. I remember that date because when I got off, an international airplane at the international airport in Rome Italy, there were about five Carabinieris with AK-47s to every one passenger in that terminal. I am looking around and going, what in Hell have I done? I’m thinking Italy is a European country. I have seen all the pictures and I am thinking, Holy crap, are we at war? What happen during those 6 hours I was on a plane.

What happened was Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait while I was asleep on the plane. So I get off the plane in Rome, and they are on high alert. For the people who do not know, there is a lot of speculation that the ambassador who was in charge of Iraq, April Glaspie gave the go ahead to Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait by basically saying, Oh yeah, If you do that? You know that old squabble you have had over those oil wells down there? We are not going to do anything to you. So what does Saddam Hussein do? He invades.

[END VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

SIDE NOTE from Christian Science Monitor May 27, 1999


US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie 

….Eight days before his Aug. 2, 1990, invasion of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein met with April Glaspie, then America’s ambassador to Iraq. It was the last high-level contact between the two countries before Iraq went to war.

From a translation of Iraq’s transcript of the meeting, released that September, press and pundits concluded that Ms. Glaspie had (in effect) given Saddam a green light to invade.

We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts,” the transcript reports Glaspie saying, “such as your dispute with Kuwait. 👉Secretary [of State James] Baker🤔 has directed me to emphasize the instruction … that Kuwait is not associated with America.”

….She said she was the victim of “deliberate deception on a major scale,” and denounced the Iraqi transcript as “a fabrication” that distorted her position, though it contained “a great deal” that was accurate.

The veteran diplomat awaited her next assignment, later taking a low-profile job at the United Nations….

Glaspie is now US consul general in Cape Town, South Africa.


JAMES BAKER???? South Africa??? Is this woman another Victoria Nuland?

[VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

1:01:10 – 1:01:45 — Colonel: So let me tell you about the timing. I am reading through Operation Gladio, and I find out, on the second of August, 1990, there was a huge exposure in Italy about Operation Gladio. What is the best way to bury, exposure? A WAR!

So one week before that they had discovered the one thousand list of P2 [or Propaganda Due]

[END VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

SIDE NOTE:

P2 or Propaganda Due

…But one conspiracy, Masonic in origin, was catapulted into the sunshine one day in March of 1981 when the Italian police searched the home of Worshipful Master Licio Gelli and found a list containing the names of some of Italy’s most prominent officials, including that of Silvio Berlusconi, a man who would become Premier of Italy and a personal friend of George W. Bush.

Founded in 1877, P2 or Propaganda Due was an irregular lodge formed as part of the Grand Orient of Italy. It had few members until Licio Gelli came to power and drastically expanded its membership within one year to over a thousand. Gelli was a former fascist, having been a “black shirt” in Mussolini’s government, and served as a liaison between Mussolini’s government and the Third Reich.

Essentially setting the P2 Lodge up as a shadow government for Italy along fascist lines in the 60’s and 70’s, Gelli’s Lodge included four Cabinet Ministers, all three heads of Italy’s intelligence organizations, forty eight members of parliament, hundreds of military officers, and the cream of the crop of Italy’s industrialists, bankers and diplomats. In addition, he developed high level contacts outside of Italy as well, most notably meeting with Alexander Haig, and contacts with Henry Kissinger and the CIA…. The most notable of the group’s known activities involved the Vatican at very high levels.

Roberto Calvi, nicknamed “God’s Banker”, headed the doomed Banco Ambrosiano that was investigated in 1981 of breaking the law when a whopping $27 million had left Italy in violation of currency transfer laws. Also accused of laundering money for the Mafia, [Remember the CIA/NATO had taken over the Mafia in order to divert the drug money into funding Operation Gladio. — GC] the Banco Ambrosiano collapsed into bankruptcy in 1982.

Calvi had clear connections with Licio Gelli, which led to the discovery of P2 and its infamous list of members. Very heavily invested in Banco Ambrosiano was the Vatican Bank, then headed by Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, who in an attempt to increase the finances of the Holy See, entangled himself with Calvi and his illicit activities – and presumably those of the Lodge – ultimately fleeing Italy to avoid prosecution to Sun City, Arizona where he died in 2006 under the protection of his Vatican passport….

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1:01:45 – 1:02:15 — Colonel: They had discovered that the Vatican had been money laundering for Operation Gladio to the tune of multiple billions of dollars. The Archbishop of Chicago had been brought in to be put in charge of the Vatican bank. And did you know, THE VATICAN BANK HAS ONLY BEEN AROUND SINCE 1942? And did I mention that 1942 is when they set-up the Gladio Operation in Germany.

1:02:15 – 1:02:30 — Brady: And it is no coincidence that the invasion in 1990, came right on the heels of the Iran-Contra investigations which is also a CIA operation.

1:02:30 – — Colonel: The next 90 to 120 days that the exposure is happening in Italy, and then it cascades to all over Europe because Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti isn’t going to take the heat alone.

In October, these people are so tone deaf, that the ACC [Allied Clandestine Committee – GC], part of NATO that has quarterly meetings of Operation Gladio continued to have meetings! They had a meeting in October of 1990 as the exposure is coming out. So in November as more exposure happens, as a result of an investigation into Italy’s Operation Gladio units, All of the European presidents and prime ministers e are saying ‘I KNOW NOTHING!’ Andreotti was so pissed off he got on Italy’s national TV because he was not going to go down alone. He does end up in prison. He calls out every single one of the heads of the European countries, and says, if you know nothing about it, why was your guy at the NATO meeting? I know your guy was at the NATO meeting…. Implicating all of them. And that is when journalists knew to dig into all these other countries. They all had Stay-behind Units – Colonel Towner

1:04:00 – 1:04:45 — Colonel: In Italy specifically, one of the Operation Gladio events was at a bank, where like a hundred people – they basically did what they were planning to do with Operation Northwood in the USA. They would go to a bank, they would plant a bomb, it would kill one hundred people, it would wound 800 people. These were strategically done in locations where people did not support the ‘appropriate candidate’ that the West or fascists wanted to be elected. So if you were going to vote the wrong way, they would scare the hell out of you to get you to vote the right way.

1:04:45 – 1:05:00 — Brady: This absolutely does not happen in a vacuum. What else is going on geopolitically at the exact same time? The Berlin Wall came down. The dissolution of the Soviet Union. So now we basically have the reverse of what happened post WWII

1:05:00 – 1:06:00 — Colonel: Let’s finish with Argentina, because your point is dead on. I want to point out that talking about the Vatican you have Pope John Paul the First. He was Pope for 33 days. He found out about the Vatican money laundering and was going to expose it but they poisoned him and killed him. Operation Gladio.

Pope John Paul II, knew about it. He is from Poland. So the Vatican charged 10-15% usury fees for doing the money laundering to pad their own books. Some of the money the Vatican got for money laundering, you could argue was used in a good way. John Paul the II funded Solidarity in Poland to stand-up to the Soviet Union.

1:06:00 – 1:06:10 — Brady: That was Pope Pius 12 right? They embezzled over a billion dollars to Argentina but over half of that ends up in Poland for the Solidarity Movement. [Pope Pius 12 served as Pope from 2 March 1939 to 9 October 1958, during which time he led the Church through World War II. Pope John Paul II served as Pope from 16 October 1978 to 2 April 2005,– GC]

1:06:10 – 1:09:50 — Colonel: Well Pope John Paul II was the one that did it for Poland. Pope Pius 12 was before, but he was involved in Operation Gladio too.


Pope John Paul II actually starts talking to the Soviets. And one of the Operation Gladio authors with DOCUMENTATION documents messages sent by Pope John Paul II to the Soviet Union suggesting he can siphon some more money through Solidary to the Soviets to help them, because they know the Soviet Union is failing. It is in a critical state at this point, just prior to 1991. That if they wanted to use some of the money to — My words – stand up a more democratic form of government and start selling off the resources to Oligarchs that John Paul II would help with that by funneling money. So leading up to John Paul’s assassination attempt. The Fascists can not have the Soviet Union fall apart at this point because they do not have another Boogeyman right now. So they do not want it falling apart and get pissed off when they find John Paul II is trying to transition the Soviet Union out of being Communist. So they try to kill him. And they use Gladio Operators that were trained in Turkey. We have names, they were eventually arrested. This is all documented. So they get mad at John Paul II for trying to help the Soviet Union so they shoot him. He does not die but he gets the picture. He stops dealing with the Soviets but the Soviet Union falls apart anyway. — Colonel Towner

The new pope that comes in, the current pope, Pope Francis. He is the archbishop in Argentina when Operation Gladio disposes of the friendlier, less fascist president of Argentina and installs a fascist president. A president that instantly starts murdering hundreds of thousands of people. Argentina is a 95% Catholic country so if Pope Francis, as archbishop, had stood up and said stop that, the entire country would have attacked the people doing the murdering. The president would not have gotten away with it if Pope Francis had stood up. Not only did he not do that, he turned in priests that were not 100% Fascist orientated that were taken as prisoners of war. In one of the books are the statements from two who were tortured for over 6 months and Pope Francis never did anything to secure their release. They have a pending lawsuit in Argentina. He will never go there again because he is wanted for Crimes Against Humanity. It is the first time we have had a Pope that is under an Interpol Arrest warrant.

1:09:50 – 1:10:00 — Brady: A lot of that is new to me. It is very interesting. I did not know the Vatican connection was at that level at that point in time.

1:10:00 – 1:10:40 — Colonel: Then the invasion into Kuwait and the Iraq war creates in 1991 — now that they know they have to create a new boogeyman, because the Soviet Union and the ‘Communists’ [are essentially gone] — China at that time is not worthy of being a ‘communist threat’ at this point – They have to come up with a new boogeyman because you have to have someone to instill terror from. So what happened with the war in Iraq? – Oh, My God we have Islamic terrorism.

Just like they shift poppy fields, they shift terrorist threats.

1:10:40 – — Brady: Let’s not miss out on the fact that basically our intelligence agencies and this includes the British MI6 are the ones that created these Islamic Terror Cells in the first place… We created the radicalism.

1:11:00 — Colonel: And we have to have the war to start it so we have Desert Storm 1. Stop any discussions on disclosures on Operation Gladio. That created us a new enemy. AND it allowed us to move into the northern area of Iraq, Syria and Turkey and create new poppy fields there.

1:11:25 – 1:12:20 — Brady: It gets fun, There is a theory I have read recently. It rings pretty true but, “The really smart guys” in DC, their idea for how they are going to control the Middle East at the time. They thought they could topple the Sunni minor Hussein regime and put in a friendly Shiite majority regime. Because the heart of the Shiite religion is in Iraq they thought they could influence the Ayatollah of Iran. That absolutely backfired because Iran put their puppets into Iraq. Our think tanks in DC got it 180 degrees wrong. They actually thought they could de-stabilize Iran thru the Shiite route.

1:12:20 — Colonel: You realize that the president of Iran back in the day before we got the Shaw back, Mosaddegh, So he was a very liberal in a good sense and had modernized Iran. An Operation Gladio Unit took him out.

1:12:45 — Brady: In 1953

1:12:50 – 1:14:30 — Colonel: So this fascist entity can be traced to all of the instability in the Middle East. I just finished a book review on how they created in Egypt the Grand Mufti as head of Islam. See the fascist connection here. They create these Muftis, they created one in Jerusalem. Both of those Muftis are bought and paid for by Britain. They dress up people as who ever they want to implicate, and they create chaos in their countries.

The Mufi in Jerusalem literally took people and dressed them up. They doctored pictures and said Jewish people had burned a Mosque. And then they dressed up Arabs to go attack the Jewish people and kill them. That is how they create the terror. Eventually they did it so often to the Arabs in Palestine that Palestine were like “Oh Help us British government!” That is how they effect change. The create and manufacture terror and that is Operation Gladio It is a terror Machine.

1:14:30 – 1:15:00 — Brady: And then there is the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood by the British. It is really important to notice this post WWII international policy of America is just an extension of the British Foreign Policy of the Previous couple hundred years. It is the divide and conquer. They carved up the Middle East and Africa with the artificial borders specifically so you would have warring tribes that had nothing to do together and put them in one country thru an artificial border so your going to have that strife.

1:15:00 – 1:16:00 — Colonel: So the best example of that to me since I have lived there for six months, is Northern Iraq, Kurdistan. The Kurdish entity, and it was recognized on maps if you go back to the 1930s. You will see it on maps, not that it was a formal country with a president and congress and all that other stuff. It was a KNOWN ENTITY. It was huge. And it overlays today’s, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. They were recognized as a homogeneous entity and no one messed with them.

After WWII they created fake countries, and dissected up, Kurdistan. Kurdistan was very militant and anybody who ever messed with them got killed. They did not take crap from anybody.

1:16:00 — Brady: They still don’t.

1:16:00 — Colonel: I met in the 1990s most of their leadership. One of them asked me, after I had finished my deployment, to travel to see all the European casinos with him. I turned him down. They are very sweet, personality people but they are deadly lethal at the same time. They have been attacked by Turkey, by Syria, by Iraq and by Iran. And they do hold there own.

But Operation Gladio had Turkish Gladio units dressed up as Kurds attack border cities in Turkey and then they go and use that as a reason to go attack Kurds.

This happened and has happened all over the world.

I think this is so critical a point I am going to take time out from our chronology to say this:


When someone today, tells you that Hamas is doing something? YOU CAN’T BELIEVE THEM! Because number 1, we have probably over a hundred instances of Operation Gladio Units dressing up as somebody else telling you somebody else did something. So if you do not know these people individually and know what their history is. Just because you are shown a picture on a TV, they LIE to you, they have lied to you for over 100 years. Do not take them at their word. — Colonel Towner

1:17:30 — Brady: One of the more recent examples of that is the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine.

— Colonel: ABSOLUTELY

Brady: Just this week, out of a European court we got admission that a large majority of the people massacred in Maidan Square were actually done by the Ukrainian Nazis forces.

1:18:00 — Colonel: Azov and Right Sector. That is the beauty of researching Operation Gladio. I can give you exact same replica that happened in Greece. Greece pulled off Operation Gladio that is the exact same Operation Gladio that was pulled of in Maidan in Ukraine. Exactly. They make up a thing. They draw everyone into the town square. They have snipers on the buildings. They focus on women and children if there are any. They create the havoc and then change the regime. They overthrew the Greek president. Once you know their operations and you read thru a book of Operation Gladio that has been documented as Operation Gladio, you will never see things the same again.

1:18:55 — Brady: They tried to do that in Egypt just in the last decade and that is what.. The Muslim Brotherhood was trying to take over Egypt and that is why el-Sisi and the Egyptian military created a military dictatorship. And they are very much opposed to the Muslim Brotherhood. And they are a very important player in this story.

1:19:15 — Colonel: You know that Nasser, who was a nationalist, they tried to kill him, because they did not want him taking the Suez canal back from Britain. Britain HATED Nasser. He is the one who re-established Egypt and kicked the Brits out. He got sabotaged, right, left. And I would argue that the 1967 war was waged to get rid of Nasser. [Remember the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty occurred on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. — GC] Because what you are going to find out once you really get into this is, Israel is NOT the Israel we think it is.

1:19:50 — Brady: To sort of bring this home, all these operations? There are pretty good estimates that the USA since WWII has performed 73 successful color revolutions coups and probably ten that were not successful that we know about. They use the same playbook over and over again.

1:20:15 – 1:22:15 — Colonel: And that is why I call them Operation Gladio. Color Revolution to me is a made-up word. So we do not focus on what they really are…. If I can find documentation that ties a particular one, like the Maidan revolution in Ukraine to Operation Gladio, and there are documents. Then that is Operation Gladio just like the one that happened in Greece. That was Operation Gladio. And you are absolutely right, they are orchestrated out of a coordination cell housed in NATO. They encompass every single national intel organization. Mossad, CIA, MI6, B&D, The Italian secret intel apparatus, I think it is SPR…. But all those organizations, every country has one. They meet under the auspices of NATO. So lets go full circle back to Wesley Clark.

Wesley Clark was in charge of NATO when the Bosnia shit happened. ALL Operation Gladio. {Brady nods.) SO You can tie – Someone sent a video of him actually saying — and I do not know if this was before or after his NATO assignment. I tend to think it was before but I do not know. — that basically he was on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when someone showed him a document, that after the 1991 invasion of Iraq, that we were going to take over five other countries. And don’t you know we have done operations at every single one of them.

1:22:15 – — Brady: And we had the Arab Spring, just in the last decade. Make no mistake, Russia’s reaction to the Arab Spring. That is what really caused the divide. Between The Great Russian Reset that Hillary and Obama were talking about earlier in Obama’s tenure. We had Skolkovo Innovation Center known as “Silicon Valley” in Russia with Russia cooperating with US corporate interests that were Clinton Foundation donors. That schism happened because the Arab Spring was too close to Russia’s front Door.

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SIDE NOTE ON THE ARAB SPRING:

From my 2014 notes that I updated where possible. Seems the information connecting it to the Fabian Society in Britain got scrubbed.

FABIAN SOCIETY PHAMPHLET, From Dictator to Democracy was spotted in EGYPT by journalists and suggested as a catalyst to the current unrest.

That pamphlet is available as an e-book from the Fabian Society:
Fabian Essays In Socialism:
www.bestebooksworld.com/ebook/16953/

That URL now goes to:

http://www.bookyards.com/book_details.html?ranking=included&book_id=9711

And that URL now comes back as: The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL. 🤔

The Pamphlet is now attributed to the Albert Einstein Institution and all reference to the Fabian Society, except for my 2014 comment have been erased!

Gene Sharp is the author.

WIKI: …. In 1968, he received a Doctor of Philosophy in political theory from 👉Oxford University.👈[12] Funding for Sharp’s research at this time came from the 👉 DARPA project of the US Department of Defense.[15]👈

Sharp was appointed a professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth in 1972. He held research appointments at Harvard University‘s Center for International Affairs from 1965.[2] In 1983 he founded Harvard’s Program on Nonviolent Sanctions in Conflict and Defense (PNS), which “continued in the spirit of its founder”[16] and in 1995 was merged with another Harvard organization. In 1983 Sharp also founded the Albert Einstein Institution, a non-profit organization devoted to studies and promotion of the use of nonviolent action in conflicts worldwide

SOURCE WATCH: Albert Einstein Institution


After Egypt and Libya, What’s Next for Those Still Under Dictatorships?


As journalists have sought to untangle the disparate threads that unite these uprisings, one of the most interesting revelations has been a common reference to a dusty — but still relevant — book, “From Dictatorship to Democracy.” Earlier this month, the New York Times proclaimed its author, Gene Sharp, a “shy intellectual” who had created “the playbook for revolution” — noting that his work was posted on the Muslim Brotherhood website during the Egyptian uprising, and was cited equally among Tunisians, Bosnians and Estonians in their quest for freedom. So far, it has been translated into 41 languages..


So there is the Milner/Fabian Society tie in. What is really interesting is the Milner Mission in Egypt 1919


In May 1919, Lord Milner was appointed to head a mission to investigate how Egypt could be granted “self-governing institutions” while maintaining the protectorate and safeguarding British interests. The mission arrived in Egypt in December 1919 but was boycotted by the nationalists, who opposed the continuation of the protectorate.


And yes that is the SAME Milner that developed the ‘Round Tables’ like the Council on Foreign Relations. And was part of the The Balfour Declaration of 1917

….the acceptance by the Allied Powers and the United States of the policy of the Balfour Declaration made it clear from the beginning that Palestine would have to be treated differently”—that is, the Palestinians could not be permitted independence or democratic governance.[60]

This rejection of the Arabs’ right to self-determination was succinctly expressed by Lord Alfred Milner, who told the House of Lords on June 27, 1923, that since Palestine was sacred also to Jews and Christians, “the future of Palestine cannot possibly be left to be determined by the temporary impressions and feelings of the Arab majority in the country of the present day.”

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1:22:50 — Colonel: Well I think they were using all of those things to entice Putin. I think they thought they could buy Putin. I think they thought if they Westernized Russia enough, with the Skolkovo thing and the Uranium thing. I honestly think they thought they could buy him. When they figured out they could not buy him, they turned on him.

— Brady: The Primakov doctrine I mentioned earlier is worth mentioning here in closing. Primakov was a very influential Russian politician in the late 1990s and for another decade or so. He had three really important students. One of them was Putin, One was their brilliant Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, and the third one is Sergey Glazyev, who runs the Russian central bank. These are people worth reading because they do not like the European Central Bank model what so ever. They understand that it has created a global monetary hegemony. Russia’s survival relies on getting away from the Anglo-American Rules Based Order and the global dollar hegemony.

That was written 22 years ago. Putin’s foreign policy has followed the Primakov Doctrine to a Tee ever since. There are three main pillars of the Primakov Doctrine. The first one is getting away from the dollar. Getting off the dollar based system, the international Bank of Settlements, the International Monetary Fund. [GEE, Seems Biden’s sanctions really helped there! – GC] We are seeing that accomplished.

I am an American patriot, just like you. I do not want to see the USA weakened. But we have used the dollar, not for the betterment of the world. We have used it to bully, this banking system, to bully other countries. This ties into ALL OF IT. It is not just a CIA operation. There are other branches of the government involved.

Read:

Primakov Doctrine and Russia’s Multipolar World

1:24:50 — Colonel: Oh Absolutely. I want to make one last point.

When we talked about the refugee situation, one of the casualties of that is Human Trafficking and Child Trafficking. If anyone wants to do any research on tying Gladio to that particular topic? I suggest you start in Belgium. Belgium not only has a very robust operation Gladio network, but I want to give you the name of Marc Dutroux. That guy set-up the most hideous Child Trafficking Network, using refugees, to blackmail all of the foreign dignitaries, once NATO moved to Belgium. It is all reported.

The Revelations of WikiLeaks: No. 4—The Haunting Case of a Belgian Child Killer and How WikiLeaks Helped Crack It

I also want [to say] in closing, that as you explore this topic, you will see, and I saw it personally when I lived in Italy. In one bomb attack they killed five judges. Initially they killed every investigative reporter. — In Turkey and in Italy and Portugal, in Germany, — If you wrote about Operation Gladio before it broke big in Italy? YOU DIE! If you were part of government and investigated it? YOU DIE. If you try to litigate as a judge. YOU DIE!

There has been so much death and destruction related to Operation Gladio and the exposure of it, that it’s breathtaking. I have never seen anything like it. The depravity is best illustrated when you look at Belgium’s Operation Gladio Network because it is so disgusting.

You have to have all those facets. You have to have Money Laundering. You have to have the Drug [Trafficking.] You have to have the war… And it is all used to feed a global fascist takeover. By us focusing on the WEF and other low hanging fruit you miss the big picture and that is on purpose.

— Brady: The decisions made in the smoke filled rooms in London and NYC, and a little bit in DC as well as a few other major European capitols. These are the names we do not get to know very often. The people that sit on the Council on Foreign Relations are not necessarily the people that sit at the head of the table. They are NOT the Puppet Masters. We know who some of the names are but I do not think we will know all of them. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Shadow State, this is who rules the world.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250325 ❀ Tuesday Placeholder ❀ Is the Rapture in the New Testament?

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We continue to mourn the untimely passing of our beloved compatriot DePat, known in real life as Susie Sampson, and also as author Patricia Holden.

Until we have a dedicated author for the Tuesday daily open thread, I will be posting “placeholders” like this one, which may or may not be spiced up with additional content.

We now have a dedicated author for Tuesdays – TradeBait! (Or TradeBait2 as he is officially known to the software.) Please welcome him on April 1, 2025, when he begins!

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This will be the last Tuesday placeholder – hopefully for a long, long time. Thank you all and God Bless!

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Is the Rapture in the New Testament?

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The more I research the Bible, the more convinced I become that there is some force, entity, or group, embedded even in Christianity itself, that doesn’t want the real truths of the Bible to ever be known.

It started when I found the mistranslation, found in almost every version of the Bible, of Jesus’s clear statements of “I am.” He used the name of God, given to Moses by the Man Himself, more than once; but in translation it has been watered down to “I am He,” or “it is I.”

Here that is in Matthew 14, when Jesus walks on water:

25 Now in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went to them, walking on the sea. 26 And when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, “It is a ghost!” And they cried out for fear.

27 But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, [c]“Be of good cheer! [d]It is I; do not be afraid.”

See that little letter ‘d’? If I click on that, it comes up with the reference “Lit. I am.”

LITERALLY I AM.

But translated as “It is I.” WHY? This appears in almost every Bible translation, with a couple of exceptions. Here is one outlier; the Amplified Bible, Classic Edition:

26 And when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were terrified and said, It is a ghost! And they screamed out with fright.

27 But instantly He spoke to them, saying, Take courage! I Am! Stop being afraid!

It happens again in John 18 in the Garden of Gethsemane:

Then Jesus, knowing all that was about to happen to Him, went to them and asked, “Whom do you want?” They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene.” Jesus said, “I am He.” And Judas, who was betraying Him, was also standing with them. When Jesus said, “I am He,” they drew back and fell to the ground. Again He asked them, “Whom do you want?” And they said, “Jesus the Nazarene.” Jesus answered, “I told you that I am He; so if you want Me, let these men go on their way.”

All those italicized “He’s” are added. And if you think about it, it doesn’t make any sense with them anyway. They come looking for Jesus, He says “I am He” and they all fell down on the ground? Why? They were looking for the man. BUT, they were all Jews; they knew what “I AM” meant full well, so they fell to the ground before God in terror of what they were doing when Jesus said it.

Changing “I AM” to “I am He” sure waters down down the impact, doesn’t it?

And now I come to the Rapture.

I was challenged recently about the actuality of the Rapture, and whether it appears in the Bible. If you ask Google “is the Rapture in the New Testament,” here is the answer from AI:

The idea of the rapture is described in the New Testament, but the word “rapture” does not appear in the Bible.

This is essentially a lie, and I can prove it.

The concept of the rapture is introduced in the Bible in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, and Matthew 24:40-42.

Thessalonians 4

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [a]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [b]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [c]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

1 Corinthians 15

51 Behold, I tell you a [a]mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Matthew 24

40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what [a]hour your Lord is coming.

My chief point today appears in the verse from Thessalonians, and these words in bold:

Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

Thessalonians was written in Greek. The Greek Text Analysis of “caught up” reveals ἁρπαγησόμεθα. Well, that’s Greek to me!

https://biblehub.com/text/1_thessalonians/4-17.htm

That Greek word is harpazo (ah, English letters), which means to snatch or take away. Elsewhere in the Bible the same word is used to describe how the Spirit caught up Philip near Gaza and brought him to Caesarea (Acts 8:39) and to describe Paul’s experience of being caught up into the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2-4). So it would seem that the word is being used to describe people being “moved” from the Earth to “the clouds.”

A Greek to Latin translator reveals that the Greek word ἁρπαγησόμεθα in Latin is rapimur. The word “rapimur” for “caught up” in Thessalonians first appears in the Latin Vulgate Bible, translated by Jerome in 382. He was commissioned by Pope Damasus to translate the Four Gospels into Latin from the best available Greek texts, and by the time Damasus died in 384, he was mostly finished. In a letter to Pope Damasus in 383, Jerome wrote:

“You urge me to revise the old Latin version, and, as it were, to sit in judgment on the copies of the Scriptures which are now scattered throughout the whole world; and, inasmuch as they differ from one another, you would have me decide which of them agree with the Greek original. The labour is one of love, but at the same time both perilous and presumptuous; for in judging others I must be content to be judged by all; and how can I dare to change the language of the world in its hoary old age, and carry it back to the early days of its infancy?”

Jerome completed his Vulgate Bible by 404 A.D.

https://vulgate.org

In the English language, we derive many words from Latin roots. The Latin word “rapimur” is the root word of…you guessed it…

RAPTURE.

The Rapture as a concept would not really be pushed to the fore until John Nelson Darby analyzed Bible translations in the 1830s. But the word that is the root of the word “Rapture” appeared in 384 in Jerome’s translation. I don’t think the “Harpazo” would have quite the same ring to it!

So there you have it. The word “Rapture” IS in the New Testament.

I find this prevarication to be as sly as ole Bill Clinton’s “depends on what the meaning of “is” is!” And both of the above examples, found across Christian belief and thought, make me wonder WHY and WHO? Because this isn’t just pagans and non-Christian sources. This is almost everywhere, even in Christianity itself.

FUN FACT

When the Gutenberg Bible was printed in the 1450’s, it was an edition of Jerome’s Latin Vulgate Bible. So the first books ever printed with moveable type contained the word we derive Rapture from.

*******IN FAIRNESS TO GROK AI*******

I thought to head over and ask Grok about the word rapture in the Bible. Lo and behold, it told the truth!

Does the word Rapture appear in the New Testament?

Yes, the word “Rapture” does appear in the New Testament, but not in the way you might think. The English word “Rapture” as commonly understood today—referring to the event where believers are caught up to meet Jesus Christ in the air—doesn’t appear explicitly in modern English translations of the Bible. However, the concept is derived from the Latin word raptura, meaning “a carrying off” or “seizure,” which comes from the verb rapere (“to snatch” or “to seize”). This Latin term was used in the Vulgate, a 4th-century Latin translation of the Bible, to translate the Greek word harpazō (ἁρπάζω), which means “to snatch away” or “to catch up.”

The key passage associated with the Rapture is found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (New Testament), where Paul writes:
“Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” (ESV)
In the Greek text, “caught up” is harpagēsometha (from harpazō), and in the Latin Vulgate, it’s rendered as rapiemur (from rapere). This is where the term “Rapture” originates.

So, while “Rapture” as an English word isn’t directly in the New Testament, the idea and the root word it’s based on (harpazō) are present, particularly in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The modern use of “Rapture” to describe this event became popularized in English-speaking Christian theology much later, especially through 19th- and 20th-century dispensationalist teachings.

Does that clarify things for you? Let me know if you’d like me to dig deeper!

WELL, HANG ON THERE ABOUT GROK!

So, down in the comments, I told a story about asking Grok about the Rapture. I decided to move it up here, as it adds more to the AI part of the story:

I was telling a friend about the progression I went through in writing today’s post, and during that conversation, she and I stumbled upon a disturbing possibility. It went like this:

After my friend stated she didn’t believe there would be a Rapture, I, who have never studied it in depth, went looking for info. I first asked Google if the Rapture appeared in the New Testament. The answer I got is in the post above.

I went about doing my research, using various online sources, and my Bible (hard copy).

I wrote a draft of the above post in WordPress. It was in drafts, not scheduled for publication yet.

During the AI discussion here on the Tree, para wrote about using AI for research, and mentioned Grok. I hadn’t asked Grok anything about the subject of the Rapture in the Bible, so out of curiosity, I went and asked. I got the answer I put at the end of the post.

Now here’s the possibility my friend and I considered; Grok’s answer to my query is very close to the research I had written into drafts before I asked the question, and is completely different from the answer I got from Google AI. Did Grok “read” my research, not yet “published,” before answering?

This possibility disturbed my friend greatly, and it sure made me wonder.


Dear KMAG: 20250324 Trump Won Three Times ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

hauberk

noun

  • long chain-mail coat
  • long mail shirt
  • long tunic made of chain mail
  • coat of mail; especially, the long coat of mail of the European Middle Ages, as contrasted with the habergeon, which is shorter and sometimes sleeveless

Used in a sentence

By the 10th century, the hauberk was common among well-armored warriors, often paired with a helmet.

Shown in a picture

Featured in a video, but not by name


MUSIC!

Listen to some traditional folk music while watching a woke-looking modern Renaissance festival type gal make decorative chain mail!


THE STUFF

So what if space was actually a bit like chain mail? Sabine talks about it!

So have we really found the point where math turns into physics?

Just sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250320 & Rural v. Urban


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2024 Presidential Election Map by County. (an uncertain credit)
Let us Never Forget: our VOTES gave the Trump Administration a Mandate to FIX IT ALL.

Do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

For freedom Christ has set us free. Stand firm, therefore,
and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. — Galatians 5:1


We got our miracle.
America is back.

Let us dedicate ourselves to the cleansing, healing, and rebuilding of our beautiful nation.

God will guide us.
Prayers & thanks to God for President Donald J. Trump.


Rural v. Urban.

Last week’s discussion of separatist movements was thin on the details regarding the motivations of those wanting to redraw the lines for their state. But the most common issue mentioned seems to be that nearly all of the time, the urban areas of a state are running the state without much consideration of the people living in the more rural areas.


Fourteen States – or more.

Will Trump will sew a 51st star on our flag?

From the article referenced last week, there are active separatist movements in at least 14 states: California, Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas and Washington.

The goals aren’t the same in each place — and some movements are far more serious than others. Dozens of counties in Illinois and Oregon, for example, have already voted in favor of some form of separation from their current states.

The rural v. urban dynamic is called out in an essay from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, College of Law (2018), “Splitsylvania: State Secession and What to Do About It

[Intrastate] secession is the true secession fever: Not the perennial postelection calls of losing parties to secede from a nation controlled by the opposition, but a growing movement for secession from states, with the parts of states (sometimes geographically very large parts of states) wanting to separate from the population-dense urban areas that essentially control state decisionmaking. Feeling ignored, put-upon, and mistreated, secessionists want to take their fate into their own hands. These movements are common, but not likely to succeed on their own, as intrastate secession is, though not entirely unknown (see, e.g., West Virginia) very difficult to pull off.

But these movements do indicate a widespread sense of dissatisfaction among (mostly rural) populations who feel that they are governed by people in distant urban centers who know little, and care less, about their way of life. Such sentiments, which in a way resemble those regarding Britain in the lead-up to the American Revolution, have probably worsened since the Supreme Court’s decisions in the line of cases beginning with Baker v. Carr weakened rural areas’ political position in favor of urban areas. This problem was, to a degree, foreseen by contemporary critics of those decisions.

In conclusion the author proposes:

In this short Essay, I have argued that allowing different standards for urban and rural areas in key subjectmatter areas, something that can be done by both state and federal governments without any constitutional changes, is likely to accomplish that goal. I believe that little of value would be lost by this approach, and much, potentially, might be saved.


An Example.

“Leave Illinois Without Moving – Demand a New State”

In Illinois, the proposal is for all but one county to leave the state of Illinois with essentially only Chicago (about 1/2 of the state population) remaining under the current state government of Illinois. The New Illinois organization will be holding their 7th Constitutional Convention in a little over two weeks from now.

The History of New Illinois

Not long ago, those of us who founded New Illinois were talking about moving away. Just like more than half the state’s residents, we found that in Illinois the taxes were too high, the opportunities limited, and the government corruption outrageous. Then one day the thought struck – Why should WE have to leave? Our families and our roots are here, going back to 1870. Why not stay and fight for our home? In June 2018, we formed New Illinois, a nonprofit organization with the mission of educating Illinoisans about their RIGHT, under the U.S. Constitution, to pursue the formation of a new state. Rather than moving away, we wanted to leave Illinois without moving.

Their vision is compelling for many others living in rural areas who feel out of step with the urban-centered governments running their states.

OUR VISION
New Illinois envisions a NEW State free from a tyrannical form of government, where residents will be able to experience a government representing their Constitutional Rights.


Our Turn.

We can’t leave this to others. We can get informed on what has been found, what is being done about it, and what more needs to be done.

We can make a difference.
And we must make a difference.

May God bless and guide you
as you pray and take action for our nation.


Twitterati, etc.

May I recommend to you @40daysforlife. Each year during Lent, all around the world, a 40 Days for Life prayer vigil is observed to pray for the protection of the unborn.

These prayers and outreach have made a difference. Since the start of 40 Days For Life to now, they have recorded 25,386 babies saved, 162 abortion centers closed, and (perhaps the most stunning) 268 abortion workers have quit, often being assisted in finding a new career through help from 40 Days For Life volunteers.


Prayer.

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.


KMAG 20250319 OPEN TOPIC & OPERATION GLADIO — JFK ASSASSINATION

The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection

NOTE FROM THE AUTHOR: I hope you take the time to read this because it may very well have a great impact on events in the near future.

I wrote most of this over the weekend so I have no idea if these theories are true. Also we do not know how true the JFK files actually are either. I will be looking at the video I link to further down.

I am going to cut this hour-and-a-half video in half. I am again going to do a rough transcription and I will not put it in quotes. My comments and other information that I add should be obvious.

In the middle was this section on JFK and Cuba.

CUBA & JFK

ROUGH TRANSCRIPT

50:30 – Colonel Towner: When the opium came out of the far east it transited Sicily for the lab preparation after the CIA got rid of the Corsica mafia… talks of Godfather movie… Propaganda two [P2] is the masonic lodge that was set up by the Black Prince of Italy. Almost a thousand–mafia, Vatican, or Italian officials–were members, including the president, chief of intel. Top guy set up that Sicily was going to be the lab for refining, the refined heroin would be transported to Cuba, and Cuba was going to stage it into Miami, New York, LA… they used plastic oranges for transport…. Military also was used for shipping and that is why you have wars. The Vietnam war, the Afghan war. The Flying Tigers in Burma, had to do with opium harvested in China.

OPERATION NORTHWOOD

Colonel: Operation Northwood was created, & drafted by CIA, Allen Dulles and General Lyman Lemnitzer chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was an Operation Gladio Event. In it they purposed, to McNamara [secretary of defense] and JFK, — they wanted Cuba back so bad – that Operation Northwood featured all of the major US cities having terror attacks by Stay-behind trained people. The people would be dressed as Cuban Nationalists. They would basically say we had been invaded by Cuba, communism was taking over however the entire time it would be people dressed as Cubans. They were going to kill tens of thousands of Americans to instill fear, so they could do a ground invasion of Cuba.

JFK says absolutely not, we are not doing this. Allen Dulles, just before this had been fired. Lyman Lemnitzer, in what should have been a demotion and a resignation, JFK thought, was reassigned to NATO.


SIDE NOTE FROM WIKI: “He [Lyman Lemnitzer ]was appointed as commander of U.S. European Command and as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe, which was a positional demotion.”

Colonel: JFK had never been told about Operation Gladio. He had never been told that a sub unit of NATO called ACC [Allied Clandestine Committee – GC], was the planning cell for all Operation Gladio events. Unknowingly JFK put Lemnitzer in charge of Operation Gladio. Why that is important is because…

[END VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION]

Charles de Gaulle kicked out NATO after they tried to kill him!


After 31 US-NATO assassination attempts on his life, President De Gaulle kicked NATO out of France

March 10, 1966: After 31 assassination attempts against his life, Charles De Gaulle ordered France’s withdrawal from NATO’s military integrated command. This decision was formally reversed almost half a century later under Nicolas Sarkozy’s presidency. De Gaulle adopted a foreign policy independent of the Anglo-american axis.

His March 10 1966, not only pertained France’s decision to withdraw from NATO’s integrated military command, but also to remove NATO’s headquarters from French territory, thereby leading the establishment of the Alliance’s headquarters in Brussels…

A Damned Murder Inc: Kennedy’s Battle Against the Leviathan

…After returning from Kennedy’s Nov. 24th funeral in Washington, de Gaulle and his information minister Alain Peyrefitte had a candid discussion that was recorded in Peyrefitte’s memoire “C’était de Gaulle,” the great General was quoted saying:

“”What happened to Kennedy is what nearly happened to me… His story is the same as mine. … It looks like a cowboy story, but it’s only an OAS [Secret Army Organization] story. The security forces were in cahoots with the extremists.

Security forces are all the same when they do this kind of dirty work. As soon as they succeed in wiping out the false assassin, they declare the justice system no longer need be concerned, that no further public action was needed now that the guilty perpetrator was dead. Better to assassinate an innocent man than to let a civil war break out. Better an injustice than disorder.

America is in danger of upheavals. But you’ll seeAll of them together will observe the law of silence. They will close ranks. They’ll do everything to stifle any scandal. They will throw Noah’s cloak over these shameful deeds. In order to not lose face in front of the whole world. In order to not risk unleashing riots in the United States. In order to preserve the union and to avoid a new civil war. In order to not ask themselves questions. They don’t want to know. They don’t want to find out. They won’t allow themselves to find out.

It remains to be seen if JFK’s assassination was an Operation Gladio and how much LBJ was involved.

The other aspect of this I wish to point out is this:


Operation Northwood featured all of the major US cities having terror attacks by Stay-behind trained people. The people would be dressed as Cuban Nationalists. They would basically say we had been invaded by Cuba, communism was taking over however the entire time it would be people dressed as Cubans. They were going to kill tens of thousands of Americans to instill fear, so they could do a ground invasion of Cuba….
Colonel Towner


Even WIKI mentions:

…As chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Lemnitzer was responsible for drafting Operation Northwoods, a proposed plan to create support for military action against Cuba, by orchestrating false flag terrorism acts in the United States…

Now consider these facts:

1. POTUS Trump had read the JFK files during his first term.

2. When he lost the election he wrote a schiff load of EOs and other secret documents.

3. He appointed new military leaders.

4. There was a new branch of the armed forces organized under Trump 45. This people were hand picked.

Jon Herold was yapping about ‘Devolution’ in 2021 and beyond. I brought it to the Qtree because it does exist. Devolution is fallback plan not a legal coup d‘état however the flurry of activity AFTER the election was certainly note worthy.

The Continuity of Government Devolution Plan, often referred to simply as COG, is a highly classified protocol designed to ensure the continuity of essential government functions in the event of a catastrophic event or crisis. This plan was originally created during the Cold War to protect the United States from the threat of nuclear war. LINK

However, what if Trump’s flurry of activity post the 2020 election was not about the stolen election but was aimed at preventing an ‘Operation Northwood’ false flag aimed at ‘Deplorables’ instead of Cubans? I mention this possibility because I am surprised something of this nature was NOT deployed given all the falsehood surrounding Jan 6th ..

A second observation. I do think Q is legit. However Colonel Towner’s comment on another video, that Fort Bragg is where Gladio Operatives are trained to be assassins, gives me pause since Fort Bragg is also home to several psychological operations units, including the 4th Psychological Operations Group (Airborne) and the 8th Psychological Operations Group (Airborne). 

An added tidbit to keep in mind as you read this transcript.

Declassified files expose British role in NATO’s Gladio terror armies

Newly declassified British Foreign Office files have added disturbing details to the history of Operation Gladio. The covert operation was uncovered in 1990, when the public learned that the CIA, MI6 and NATO trained and directed an underground army of fascist paramilitary units across Europe, deploying its assets to undermine political opponents, including through false flag terror attacks.

Among them was a young Silvio Berlusconi, the media oligarch who served as Italian Prime Minister in four separate governments between 1994 and 2011. Listed as a member of the P2, the secret Cold War-era cabal of political elites devoted to Gladio’s aims, Berlusconi undoubtedly took some weighty secrets to the grave when he died this June 12th [2023].

It is almost impossible to believe that inconvenient truths were not weeded from Britain’s documentary record on Operation Gladio prior to declassification. Nonetheless, the recently released material is highly illuminating. Covering a fraught twelve month period after the first public disclosure of Gladio’s existence, the papers illustrate how London’s foreign intelligence apparatus kept a keen eye on the continent as events unfolded.

The papers not only shed fresh light on the conspiracy, they underline Gladio’s relevance as British intelligence joins its America counterparts in contemporary plots involving secret partisan forces from Syria to Ukraine….

ROUGH TRANSCRIPT

0:26 – Introductions of the Colonel & Brady. The Colonel has several degrees including a Masters Degree in Strategic Studies (Political & Military history of last 100 yrs) Brady spent 20 years in banking and finance on Wall Street.

2:30 – They came to similar conclusions from different directions.

3:00 – Colonel: I came across Operation Gladio in the book The Third Way. It is written about the erroneous assumption that there is a far left and a far right. There is not. There is a perception that Communism is on the left and Fascism is on the right. They are both very leftist ideologies. You need them to psychologically funnel people in a particular direction, you need to have something on the left and on the right to funnel people into what I call the cattle car. The narrative got built around the early WWI, WWII that Fascism was going to be DESIGNED as a Right Issue so that as the author points out, you can come at people from the left and from the right and herd them in the direction you want. I found that concept fascinating.

4:25 –5:15 Brady: I agree 100%, I should mention I am an amateur constitutional scholar, and I help Douglas B Gibbs, teach a constitution class both on line and it used to be in person. One of the things we describe is the far left is 100% authoritarianism. And the far right is 100% anarchy but that is also 100% individual liberty. So what the Founding Fathers goal was is to be as far right as you could be, with the most individual liberty and still maintain order. What you are talking about is the artificial calling of Communism left and Fascism right, that is just the divide and conquer strategy. It does not matter what is right or what is left, what is white what is black, they want to distract us so we never look up and see who is pulling the puppet strings.

5;20 – 8:10 Colonel: One of the things I noticed right away, in Trump’s narrative, he never allows people to create the false narrative, and then answer it. He calls them immediately on them phrasing a question with it being fiction and then expecting him to answer. It is like the wife beating trap.

Anyone who has a conversation about the ‘Far Right’ I ignore because they have completely destroyed their credibility by the use of that term. I just will not accept that hypothesis. I wish more of us in a dialog would do that. It is based on knowledge. I have spent literally hundreds of hours reading and beginning a podcast helping people who still work and have a day job, to have the information to be able to refute this in a concise manner.

When I got to the end of The Third Way, I feel like I am fairly competent in military operations, and things that have gone on in the past. He talked about a concept called Operation Gladio. Because that was new. I had no idea what that was, I am instantly intrigued. It is also referred to as Stay-Behind Units and as the Strategy of Tension. All three of those things are synonymous with each other.

I started looking and reading articles just on the internet. I found a couple of authors who were detailing in like volumes of books about the extensiveness of Operation Gladio. I was flabbergasted that in all of the research, all of the historical documents I have read, I had never come across that.

So I immediately get on the phone to my network. I have retired National War College friends, I have retired general friends, as a matter of fact I was just talking recently to a 3 star general. He has never heard of it! And he was in charge, commanded the Air War College and the Air Command and Staff College!!! And he never heard of it!!!

That just blew me away! And that made me more interested in exposing it, because it is HUGE.

8:10 – 8:30 Brady: Just to be crystal clear this is NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY! This is documented in CIA , government documents and Congressional testimony. THIS IS REAL. Everything we are talking about is NOT a theory. It is not somebody trying to put pieces together. There are actual sourced documents behind all this stuff.

8:30 -11:30 Colonel: Correct. Newspaper clippings, The best investigation into it was in Italy and we will get into that. But also to set the stage and capture what you were saying Brady about your Wall Street experience, which is why I think this team is going to be so awesome, in discussing this particular topic . Because also this was in context for me about having just recently learned thru Anthony Sutton’s Trilogy about Wall Street and the Bolsheviks, Wall Street & FDR, and Wall Street and Nazism – Hitler. That the funding of ALL of those, the funding of FDRs campaign, the funding of the Bolsheviks that went into Russia and turned it Soviet quote unquote Communism. The effort to fund Hitler both when he was still in jail but after he became the Chancellor of Germany as well. ALL came primarily from one location near Wall Street and the address was 120 Broadway NYC…. Anthony Sutton is on Youtube with all proven fact with cables, State Department cables. He goes into a lot of detail on exactly how that happened.

It is interesting to note for the purpose of today, that Lenin was put up in London UK and Trotsky was put up in NYC. [ Note that for years I was not allowed to use the word Trotsky at Jo Nova’s, ChiefIo’s or Tony Heller’s sites. I was told by Jo and E.M. Smith the comments went straight to trash and NOT TO MODERATION. – GC 🤔] They were housed there with no apparent income yet Trotsky in the early 19 teens had a refrigerator, and all the luxuries that most Americans did not have access to. They both traveled from their protective custody to Russia to create communism AFTER the revolution in Russia. That ties directly into where we are going to get to the operational control of Operation Gladio. It comes both from the USA, Germany, because Lenin went thru Germany to get to Russia and from downtown London.

11:30 – 12:50 Brady: You cannot tell this story without talking about London PERIOD. That may just be the epicenter of all these schemes and plots.

It is funny you mentioned Anthony Sutton. I started my research with the history of Banking and Finance and how it got, shall we say, as creative as it has. It’s the wrong term. You go deep enough into the formation of money. The very first presentation I ever did, I called the dystopian history of money and banking and I went all the way back to Roman times. The first creation of making private coin in the 1600s. If you go down that path, you can’t not run into Anthony Sutton at some point in time. I ran into him pretty early on. G. Edward Griffin among others. Dr John Coleman did some really good work in this area. He was dismissed as a quack for a number of years, but his theories are becoming more and more true over the last decade or so. It’s funny, so let’s not dismiss these people out of hand. Some of these people did do real research.

The work that Sutton did is amazing and the same with Griffin because they actually dug thru boxes and microfiche and real articles and actual cables and communications.

12:50 – Colonel: Exactly

Brady: Source documents as we like to call it….

You mentioned Trotsky coming from NY but you also mentioned the Russian Revolution. I would state that a little differently. It was not so much a Russian Revolution as it was a Russian Invasion.

Colonel: Correct.

Brady: And it was financed by British & NY banking interests. We do not have to talk about the long feud between British and Russian, but it definitely plays a part.

13:30 Colonel: But for another show, that will include all the royalty that got deposed to include France, Austrian. We lost thousand-year reigns of monarchies, I am not saying it was good or bad, but I am saying it was intentional.

13:45 Brady: Yeah, and they may be all related. Much of them are descended from the Venetian Royalty who infiltrated thru marriage throughout Europe. And that’s a whole show unto itself.

14:00 Colonel: Probably a whole series of shows.

14:05 Brady: So where are we? 1917 or what.

Colonel: If you back up a little bit. It is important to note the Boer wars that happened in Africa. Because you set the stage for the colonization that had been going on both pre-world wars and post world wars. However the Boer wars are the first time we get introduced to Winston Churchill. So for the people who do not know, there were 2 Boer wars. And in the first one, the English got their butt kicked by the totally ill-equipped Boers who were basically farmers. And the way they got their butt kicked was, the Boers knew where the British were going to attack them because they had infiltrators. And a young British reporter, named Winston Churchill, was covering this. And as the British forces went in to attack the different settlements of these farmers, the farmers, had what we will call, stay-behind units. They had hid both munitions and people so as the British went by they ambushed them from behind. That struck Winston Churchill as genius. So he wrote about it…. They used that knowledge when they came back and attacked the second time after they found gold there. It was all about resources. They wanted the gold and they wanted the diamonds in South Africa. And that is the reason why South Africa became a British Colony. They wanted to steal all the resources.

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I want to interject what my South African friend told me this past Sunday. First if I understood her correctly the South African area was NOT occupied by Blacks at the time. The Dutch (Boers) colonized it. Second she told me that DURING THE 2ND Boer WAR, the British took Women and children prisoners AND FED THEM FOOD LACED WITH GLASS SO THEY DIED LINGERING HORRIBLE PAINFUL DEATHS!! The colonel also mentioned that the Brits took women and children prisoner and slaughtered them. — GC

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Colonel: This leads us to the Fabian Society, the London School of Economics, the Balfour Agreement and all of those.

This sets the stage for what is the next phase of Operation Gladio, and that is their view of the African Continent as a slave colony. It was never going to be allowed to have sovereign states. It was never going to be allowed to have its own monetary system. It was ALWAYS, and many of them still think that today. It was ALWAYS TO BE A SLAVE COLONY of the Europeans.

17:10 Brady: I want to introduce a story from one of the more influential Brits by the name of Cecil Rhodes. He is the one who founded the Rhodes Foundation right before his death. Early 1910s and it is still influential today. His is a fascinating story. He came from a relatively well-off family. Wanted to go to Oxford but did not get in. His family sent him to S. Africa to get some worldly experience. Two years after he got there they discovered diamonds in S. Africa and that really started the diamond rush there. By the age of 24 he had accumulated quite a bit of wealth and started buying up other people’s claims. He was a pretty good businessman to the point they named two countries after him. Not just Rhodesia, but I forgot the other one. He was at the heart of the Boer wars. He was pushing British interest against Dutch interests and instigated the whole thing… he goes back to London and goes to Oxford and does some interesting writing…. A couple of quotes from him.

He wanted society to insure the spread of British rule to the entire continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of Euphrates, the islands of Cyprus and Canada, the whole of South America, the islands of the South Pacific, the whole of the Malaysian archipelago, the seaboard of China and Japan, And in GOLD CAPS, THE ULTIMATE RECOVERY OF THE UNITED STATES, AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE.

That is in his own writing.

18:50 Colonel: I have the same quote and was going to read it. That is hilarious.

19:00 Brady: More from him:

I contend we are the finest race in the world and the more of the world that we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts of the world that are inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings.

We could go on but he was pretty prolific…. He was a Free Mason but he thought the Free Masons were not using their influence effectively enough. He said:

Why should we not form a secret society with but one object, the furtherance of the British Empire and bring the whole uncivilized world under British rule.

And so if you go back and look at these Rhodes Scholars this is what they were taught at Oxford. You have some pretty influential Rhodes Scholars today, Rachel Maddow, Bill Clinton, Strobe Talbott, Cory Booker, General Wesley Clark just to name a few. [Do not forget that judge Boasberg, who wanted the terrorist brought back to the USA from El Salvador. – GC]

The thinking of Rhodes and his ideology permeates today.

Colonel: Keep in mind General Wesley Clark when we get to Operation Gladio.

Brady: So that is the background on Rhodes. This is when those other institutes, like the Tavistock Institute were coming into play. Council of 300, RIA and CFR, the American version,… [I think RIA is the Royal Institute of International Affairs, now Chatham House. – GC]

20:25 Colonel: We have the creation of the Fabian Society, the London School of Economics, all coming under the Cecil Rhodes financing if you will. [Nathan Rothschild was the executor of the Rhodes will – GC] The Balfour Agreement, the people involved in the drafting of the Balfour Agreement. What is interesting about the quote that you just read, and them Capturing the Holy Land, I will make the argument as part of Operation Gladio, that is exactly what we are seeing today. It is what happen in the late 1940s when they set-up the country of Israel and how they went about doing it.

The same people that drafted the Balfour agreement, Milner and that group. They were all involved in the Fabian Society, the Round Table, the Chatham House, all those secret societies if you will. It is interesting that you mentioned the Masons because those of us who have looked into this, you realize that it goes back to the late 1700s when Adam Weishaupt wrote they were going to create a secret society within a secret society. Basically infiltrate the Masonic Orders, which at the time were just trade associations. They were literally masons, because that was the major trade throughout all of Europe and very Christian oriented. So they created within the Masonic Orders, this secret society that Adam Weishaupt talks about. It permeated throughout Europe and came over to the USA. So what you just read is literally the playbook. You realize that he outlines they are going to retake America, they are going to take over the Holy Land and I would argue they have been very successful in a very evil way.

22:30 — Brady: Successful in that if you look at the United Nations, the USA has one vote there and the members of the British Commonwealth have 55.

22:50 — Colonel: I want to outline the concept, especially for those of us in the military who will recognize this immediately. We [in the military] from a strategy standpoint, have segregated the world into what we consider combatant commands… and that is so we can formulate policies for like areas that have common economic systems, common resources issues, and normally have common concepts of government. The Rhodes Round table people… I want to introduce Oswald Mosely, he did a lot of writing as well. He is part of the Round Table, he is a Fascist by his own admission. He set up multiple Nazi/Socialist/Fascist organizations as political entities inside of England. He is famous for this concept I am going to introduce. They created, and it was also talked of in The Third Way book, they created Pan-America, Pan- Europe, Pan- British Empire, Pan-Asia. There was a total of 6 or 7. They were breaking up the world in the same way we do in the military, common currency, common customs and common trade.

24: 32 — Brady: They did that to such an extent that they had the North American currency which was to be named the Amero. We already have got the Euro. You can read about this in United Nations documents, WEF and many others.

25:00 — Colonel: What is important about this is how they view Russia. Russia was viewed as being everything west of the Urals as part of Europe. Everything east of the Urals part of Asia. Russia was not going to exist. That is why today there is so much focus on destroying Russia. Russia as it is today does not fit what they want it to be. They will continue to attack it until it does. That is something to keep in the back of your mind as we go forward on how this whole thing unfolds.

25:40 — Brady: When we get to the 21st century, circle back on that and we will talk about the  Primakov doctrine. Because the Russians understood this very well and their entire foreign policy is a game plan on how to resist that. A lot of it is about getting off the mono-polar currency system. Which they have successfully done. We will get back to that.

26:00 — Colonel: As we get into WWII, you have Churchill. Let me set the stage for Churchill too because we have already associated him with the Round Table. Churchill is very much a closet fascist. We could spend a whole hour on why that is and what the connections are. I am going to point out a couple of things. Churchill actually sets up, what they refer to as Stay-behind Units in case they were invaded by Germany. I would argue that is not at all why they were set-up because he KNEW they were not going to be invaded and the way he knew was there was a family known as Mitford. They had five girls. One was a stated communist. The rest were socialists or fascists. The parents were all part of the Oswald Mosley [ The fascist, he was a real sweetheart. 🙄 GC] clique. But I am going to talk of two of them. One of them is named Unity and one is named Diana. Diana becomes Oswald Mosley’s wife. Churchill’s wife is cousins with the Mitfords. They go to dinner all the time they are part of the same dinner clubs and they talk often. Unity becomes Hitler’s lover. Diana travels routinely to Germany throughout WWII. It is now believed that she was the go-between between Churchill and Hitler as far as intel goes. Dig away on that, because that is a fascinating story. [No wonder Queen Elizabeth was willing to stay in London! Besides I do not think Hitler would touch the City of London bankers. –CG]

28:10 — Brady: If I wanted to read more about that what book would you recommend?

Colonel: I do not know if I would recommend a particular book, but I’ll find a reference for you. I first read about the Mitford girls in The Third Way. That was my first introduction into that family.

I had at the time someone who did a lot of German research and it is on my Truth Social page called #International Syndicate. That is my term for the Cabal. Because we hit ALL religions, ALL politics, and as soon as you start talking about any aspect of that, such as the Jews or Israel you get Oh, that is fake…. So I avoid all those conversations by referring to this structure that orchestrates things like Operation Gladio as the International Syndicate. So I set up a page where I first started doing book reviews as #International Syndicate on Truth Social so you can find all the information there. Just search for Mitford and my post will come up.

29:50 — Brady: There is probably a pretty good reason why we do not have a universal term for this global corporate oligarchy that actually rules over all of us. They did not invent a word because they did not want us talking about it.

Colonel: It is like the first couple of posts I made, and all the squabbles that went back and forth, I am not going to do this. I am not going to argue with you about whether someone is a real religious advocate or not. It is the same thing as with the right and left…. So I came up with my own term, you cannot argue because I made it up.

So anyway we go on to Germany’s role in setting up Operation Gladio. We know where it originated from, the Boer Wars and Churchill. I cannot say that Churchill came up with the idea and transmitted it to Hitler, but I would not be at all surprised, because as I said there was a lot of informal communications. But as Germany took territory, Germany created Stay-behind Units. They did it in Czechoslovakia and they did it in Ukraine. I will add the ones in Ukraine are the Neo-nazis we are seeing today because Operation Gladio is still in existence today. All that territory, Poland had them, the ones in Poland were vicious, France had them, Italy had them. Stay-behind Units had weapons, they had explosives, they had money and they had comm equipment. The purpose we were told originally was if the German territory got taken over by the quote-unquote Communists, which you will remember are ALL THE SAME PEOPLE, they would be able to spring up and fight against the awful communists. I do not believe for a minute, and I can make the argument of why I do not believe that. My contention is that they were designed to stay behind for the refocusing of WWII to a much longer war. We think WWII ended, I make the argument that it never ended. They changed operational and tactical levels but their goal is still the same. World domination, New World Order.

32:50 — Brady: 100% agreed. I did a presentation called American Fascists, talking about the American financial interests that financed the Germans. How we had the Wall Street Law Firms created our intelligence agencies. That is where Allen Dulles comes into the picture. Wild Bill Donovan gave him a huge leash. Dulles was over there working in Bern Switzerland, he had also been in Switzerland 30 years previously at the Treaty of Versailles, him and his brother both, John Foster Dulles. Allen Dulles was the mastermind of the American Stay-behind program. I cannot remember the name of the operation….

33:35 — Colonel: Operation Gladio is the Stay-behind units and Allen Dulles is responsible for its transition to its current use.

33:40 — Brady: Yeah, he ex filtrated Nazis like Reinhard Gehlen

Colonel: Gehlen you are getting ahead of me. In Germany in 1942, Gehlen gets together with, at the time a colonel, but eventually becomes general Wolf, they create these stay-behind units put into all the countries. They were originally called Werewolf Units. Citizen by day, werewolf, killer by night. They stood them up all over in these forested areas that most people would not transit. This is interesting when you look at the Safari Club, the World Wildlife Fund, all focused on forested preservation areas that they put off limits to people. As we go forward, the war takes a bad turn for Germany and Gehlen reaches out to Allen Dulles. As you pointed out, Allen Dulles and his brother John Forester Dulles represented a lot of the German companies both in Germany and their branches in the USA leading up to WWII. Gehlen says [to Dulles] if you can guarantee me my freedom, I am going to turn over my Gladio Units to you… I will tell you where they are, I will help you set-up new ones in all the allied countries and we can work this operation together.

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The Railroad Robber Baron was actually Edward H. Harriman

…Born in 1848, Harriman began his career as a stockbroker and later became the director of the Union Pacific Railroad, turning it into a highly efficient business.

Harriman’s aggressive business tactics and significant influence on the American railway system earned him a reputation as a ruthless “robber baron.” He died in 1909…


His son was W. Averell Harriman.

Averell Harriman, The Old Crocodile of Diplomacy

W. Averell Harriman was one of the more prominent public figures of the 20th Century, holding major positions in diplomacy, government, and business. Harriman served as Ambassador to the Soviet Union in 1943, and later Ambassador to the United Kingdom in 1946.  Less than a year into his position of Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Harriman was selected as the Secretary of Commerce by President Harry S. Truman. He was then put in charge of the Marshall Plan to rebuild infrastructure and support the economies of Europe after the destruction of World War II.

His political ambitions came to the fore when he was elected Governor of New York in 1954. He was a candidate for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination in 1952 and again in 1956 but lost out to Adlai Stevenson both times. Although unsuccessful, Harriman became a respected advisor in the Democratic Party and went on to hold numerous positions in the government. In the Kennedy Administration, Harriman served as the Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs and in 1963, he became the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. In these positions, he was a key negotiator in the Vietnam peace talks….

The man was everywhere. From that article:

Moscow, Acting Director for the Office of War Information, 1943-45 dealing with Stalin.

Information Officer for the Marshall Plan in Paris, 1942 to 1952

Ambassador to Algeria, 1977 to 1981 [And a heck of a lot more places]

Ulric Haynes Jr.:

….in about 1960, ’61 when I was working for the Ford Foundation in Nigeria, John F. Kennedy asked Averell Harriman to make a tour of the emerging nations of Africa to give him advice on the formulation of American foreign policy in Africa. Harriman got in touch with me in Nigeria and asked me to accompany him on his mission to Africa because I was again, fluent in French and familiar with Africa….

[On] my trip with Harriman to the Congo with Lumumba, you will recall that the Americans, there has always been a suspicion — never proven, yet — that we were — our CIA was — involved with the demise of Patrice Lumumba (with Harriman, at left). And one of the reasons why we wanted Lumumba out of the way was that he was cozying up to the Soviet Union, realizing that, that this was a way of, of playing his cards in a way to get something from both the Soviet Union and the United States.

But it’s interesting, Lumumba was very, very conscious of the fact that the Americans were trying to subvert his government. He was very, very suspicious of the activities of the CIA in the Congo at the time. And I’ll never forget when Harriman went to his office to speak to him (he was prime minister at the time) about U.S. relations, he ushered us both (I was interpreting) into his bathroom.

He would not speak in his formal study because he was suspicious that it was being bugged. And the gist of his conversation was a complaint about the subversive activities of the American government….


Looks like Lumumba was correct, the CIA was planning to assassinate him and did.

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38:00 Colonel: I will say all of this was on purpose, because when you go into the Soviet Union, you find that GE is electrifying the Soviet Union. You find all the railroad barons putting all the railroads throughout the Soviet Union. You also find between WWI and WWII the way Germany got around the barring of them re-developing their military capability, is that they went into the Soviet Union, their “supposed enemy,” and built military production capability in the Soviet Union to re-weaponize Germany.

38:50 — Brady: When they had their oil tariff, [I think he means sanction – GC] when they were at war with England and were not able to get foreign oil, They started using GE plants to basically convert organics into oil. That was American technology.

39:00 — Colonel: Anyone who thinks these are all separate issues is ignorant.

There is a cycle… in order to set up Operation Gladio, it is going to take a lot of money for weapons, it is going to take a lot of money for the stashes of money, it is going to take a lot of money for the training and the travel to the training locations. So they are setting up a major business. It is like a paramilitary world wide personal army…. So they are going to bust in on the drug trade that at that time been monopolized by the French and the Corsican Mafia in Marseilles. They had a huge pharmaceutical company that actually was the heron refineries. You will find the Operation Gladio operations will travel around the drug harvesting. There will be banks that pop-up for money laundering. There will be weapons that go into an area mainly in the form of military operations. They will use false flags like we did in Vietnam. Because Vietnam was a huge poppy supplier. Britian had already done it in the Opium Wars in China… That is why you have the bank HSBC in Hong Kong. That was to money launder all the opium money coming from China.

So you have patterns of large banks, BCCI got setup when the poppy fields moved to Afghanistan. They are on the border with Pakistan so you have the big money laundering … So you have these patterns, of drugs, money laundering, weapons, because every time you have a military operation those weapons get siphoned off. That is how you find them fed into Operation Gladio. As we move forward and talk about operations that were carried out in Italy, both explosions and assassinations. You will find guns from NATO. You will find explosives ONLY supplied to NATO by the USA because they skim off the top.

The reason they have these military operations is to guard the poppy fields and steal weaponry.

42:00 Brady: I will take it back a step further. The OSS was operating in China alongside Chiang Kai-shek and his drug mafia called the Green gang. When Mao won the war when the USA pulled its support for Chiang Kai-shek, the opium trade in China had to move so they moved it into the Triangle; Afghanistan, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Fast forward a decade and we have another Intervention War with the CIA. They are flying all this stuff into Cuba to be refined before it hits the American streets. When Castro took Cuba, the CIA was NOT HAPPY at all. It has always been a burr in their saddle.

[End Transcript]

I placed the rest of the Cuba, CIA, JFK part of transcript at the top of the article.

To be Continued next week.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20250318 ❀ Tuesday Placeholder ❀ Cholesterol and Statins

We continue to mourn the untimely passing of our beloved compatriot DePat, known in real life as Susie Sampson, and also as author Patricia Holden.

Until we have a dedicated author for the Tuesday daily open thread, I will be posting “placeholders” like this one, which may or may not be spiced up with additional content.

Gudthots will take DePat’s old Thursday daily open thread.

Please notify me in advance if you would like to post anything in lieu of the Tuesday placeholder. We welcome all content – the topic doesn’t matter.

W



Cholesterol and Statins


by Gail Combs

Since many of us on the Qtree are older I wanted to document my adventures with the medical establishment. Hopefully my digging will help others avoid harmful drugs by providing the information you need to make an informed decision.

My Labs came back:

LDL = 114(H)

HDL = 98(H)

The Doc wanted to put me on STATINS and my answer was HELL NO!

What I found incredible is the lack of knowledge of the three doctors I have encountered so far. The first, despite my telling her I had a major problem with losing potassium, put me on a high level of Prednisone WITHOUT mentioning the fact I might have to take addition potassium (K) to offset the additional loss of K from the drug. This is well documented in the literature.

In the follow-up visit, not only was a statin recommended but the connection between chronic inflammation (my asthma) and higher cholesterol levels was completely ignored.

Don’t Worry About Cholesterol; Inflammation Is Your Biggest Problem — The Liver Doctor

As I mentioned, the vast majority of cholesterol in your body was made in your liver.  Cholesterol production increases when the body is under stress: emotional stress can cause elevated cholesterol because the stress hormone cortisol is made out of cholesterol. Physical stress on the body can also elevate cholesterol. Because cholesterol helps to repair and heal your body, you will produce more if there is a great deal of inflammation occurring in your body. So all those factors above that raise inflammation, can raise your cholesterol too.

Therefore the cure for elevated cholesterol can be quite simple –lower the inflammation and you’ll also lower the cholesterol.


Seems the research community is FINALLY looking into Cholesterol, inflammation and immunity.

Manuscript Submission Deadline 29 April 2025. This Research Topic is still accepting articles.

Background

Cholesterol metabolism and immune response are closely linked. Cholesterol is critical for the synthesis of lipid rafts, which activate receptors involved in antigen recognition, influences the production of NET and modulates the activation and polarization of macrophages. Oxysterols in turn regulate macrophage activation, migration, and cytokine production. While the immune response modulates the expression of genes involved in the synthesis, absorption and efflux of cholesterol. Cholesterol accumulation in immune cells promotes proinflammatory immune responses creating a vicious cycle that sustains immune inflammation. High-density lipoproteins (HDL) are typically reduced during inflammation, when reverse cholesterol transport is impaired, thus promoting hyperactivation of TLR2 and TLR4 by lipopolysaccharide (LPS) and other microbial products, resulting in inhibition of stress-induced activating transcription (ATF) 3 and enhanced production of cytokines by macrophages. Further endangering an already delicate balance, HDL proinflammatory subfractions with lower content of apoA-1, antioxidant enzymes, and L-CAT, are produced, and further fuel inflammation.

Alterations in the biochemical network between cholesterol, inflammation and immunity are emerging as a pathogenetic mechanism of numerous human disorders, among which atherosclerosis, cardiovascular diseases and their complications, metabolic diseases and diabetes, infectious diseases and sepsis, autoimmune and auto-multiinflammatory disorders, acquired and congenital hypo-immune diseases, and cancer….

So the Cabal’s bio-weapon, SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, is likely to raise cholesterol levels given the body’s response to the spike protein is inflammation and in many cases chronic inflammation known as Long Covid.


Be aware of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein: There is more than meets the eye

Abstract

….other papers showed that the spike protein by itself (without being part of the corona virus) can damage endothelial cells and disrupt the blood-brain barrier. These findings may be even more relevant to the pathogenesis of long-COVID syndrome that may affect as many as 50% of those infected with SARS-CoV-2. In COVID-19, a response to oxidative stress is required by increasing anti-oxidant enzymes. In this regard, it is known that polyphenols are natural anti-oxidants with multiple health effects. Hence, there are even more reasons to intervene with the use of anti-oxidant compounds, such as luteolin, in addition to available vaccines and anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent the harmful actions of the spike protein.


As a side note:

Luteolin, a flavonoid with potentials for cancer prevention and therapy

Abstract

Luteolin, 3′,4′,5,7-tetrahydroxyflavone, is a common flavonoid that exists in many types of plants including fruits, vegetables, and medicinal herbs. Plants rich in luteolin have been used in Chinese traditional medicine for treating various diseases such as hypertension, inflammatory disorders, and cancer. Having multiple biological effects such as anti-inflammation, anti-allergy and anticancer, luteolin functions as either an antioxidant or a pro-oxidant biochemically…. Vegetables and fruits such as celery, parsley, broccoli, onion leaves, carrots, peppers, cabbages, apple skins, and chrysanthemum flowers are luteolin rich….


Next I want to get into the vilification of cholesterol and it’s history. The following is a great article and well worth reading. This is just a sample.

Is Your Cholesterol Level Really ‘High’? Tearing Down the Cholesterol Myth


The mean would be 224 so my LDL is actually on the very low end of the scale! And even if the chart is actually looking at the combined amount of LDL + HDL, then my 114+98 = 212 is still lower than average.
From the article:

This same range of cholesterol levels has been seen in people who do have heart disease and people who do not have heart disease, as documented by Professor Brisson using data from the Framingham Study – which is one of the largest studies ever done in it.

Since the Framingham Study, other studies have also confirmed that people WITH heart disease have the same cholesterol levels as people WITHOUT heart disease.

For example, in the UK, the typical person who has a heart attack tends to have the same cholesterol level that is seen for healthy middle-aged and older people in the general population.  Something that is not unique to the UK.

A study published in the Lancet, included 5,754 patients from Australia and New Zealand who had already had a heart attack. The average cholesterol level of this group of people was around 220 mg/dl (5.7 mmol/l). Data from the WHO Global Infobase shows that around the same time, the average cholesterol level for the general population was also 220 mg/dl (5.7 mmol/l).

So people who suffered a heart attack had the same average cholesterol level as the general healthy population. 


How Ancel Keys Brainwashed the Masses Into Fearing Meat (He’s Wrong)

How Ancel Keys FAKED IT!

CORRUPTION

Reducing meat intake and cholesterol hurts sex hormone production. This is why we have the least masculine men in history today.

This is a direct and explicit consequence of the shift to eating garbage.

Processed food is INHUMANE. It’s the fastest way to kill off our population, which it looks like these people are trying to do.

The Real Research Has Been Buried

One of the most comprehensive studies on heart disease was COMPLETELY buried.

Data from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment was unearthed in 2017 after 40 years of sitting dormant.

Ancel Keys, the progenitor of the diet-heart hypothesis, was the lead on the study. It was one of the most comprehensive to date: randomized, controlled and 9,400 participants.

Subjects were in mental health institutions or nursing homes, which helped to ensure the dietary guidelines were followed to a tee for 56 months.

The control group continued to eat a diet high in saturated fats and animal fats. The intervention group ate a serum cholesterol lowering diet that replaced saturated fat with vegetable oils (from corn oil and corn oil polyunsaturated margarine).

Results:

  • The intervention group had a 14% reduction in cholesterol
  • But this didn’t reduce death rate. There was a 22% HIGHER risk of death for each 30 mg/dL reduction in cholesterol….


A Sharyl Attkisson clip of 9 minutes, giving some history. In 2004, recommended cholesterol levels were lowered based on a study by doctors connected to the drug manufacturers. When this conflict of interest was pointed out the FDA ignored it. And then the recommended levels were lowered even further in 2013. Half of the ‘advisors’ recommending the levels were compensated by the Drug manufacturers. And then there is the American Heart Association who develops the standards and its relationship to the drug manufacturers.

What is worse, is not only are statins a money waster, they are also very bad for you.

The Truth about Statin Drugs

Since their introduction in the 1980s, statin drugs have been almost universally hailed as “wonder drugs” by medical authorities around the world. The global market for statins was $16 billion in 2016, and approximately 40 million Americans (that’s one in every five adults!) takes a statin….


Dangers of Statin Drugs: What You Haven’t Been Told About Popular Cholesterol-Lowering Medicines


Why Statins are Bad for You…Really Bad

As you know, we have seen statin cholesterol drugs do really bad things to stem cells in culture. On the other end of that spectrum, we’ve also seen high triglycerides due to metabolic syndrome hurt stem cells. One of our patients who was instructed to get off statin drugs before her stem cell procedure recently sent this article by MIT professor Dr. Stefanie Seneff, which is so well done and does such a great job of explaining why statins are bad for you, I had to share. It is also so scientifically dense; I thought a quick summary would be helpful for my readers.  Here goes:

  • Statins have tiny health benefits that are way over played. My comments-Basically, you get about the same cardiac protective effect from a square or two of dark chocolate a day. 
  • Statins decrease cholesterol by blocking an important enzyme pathway, yet cholesterol is needed for the normal health functioning of all cells. In particular, cholesterol is a key component of all healthy cell membranes.
  • Cholesterol is also needed to make vitamin D3, sex hormones, and steroid hormones.
  • The brain is only 2% of the body’s total weight, but houses 25% of the body’s cholesterol.
  • LDL cholesterol is what we have been trained to believe is “bad” cholesterol, when in fact it’s an important transport container for many key items.
  • The outer shell of the LDL transport container is vulnerable to attack by high blood sugars, so in patients with poor blood sugar control (metabolic syndrome) these important transport containers for key nutrients get gummed up by these extra sugars in the blood.
  • These “gummed up” LDL containers get attacked by cells of the body in the walls of blood vessels which lead to “plaques” that clog arteries.
  • Artificially lowering cholesterol by statin drugs causes the LDL transport containers to have too little protection. The function of these containers would normally be to transport excess blood sugars from the liver as fat and get rid of this throughout the body. However, these cholesterol deficient containers can’t perform this important function, magnifying the bad effects of excess sugar consumption. This is what makes high fructose corn syrup so dangerous, as fructose as a sugar is ten times more efficient in gumming up the LDL transport system.
  • This damaged sugar to fat transport system due to a lowered cholesterol level also results in too much fructose in the blood stream (which would normally be converted to fat in the liver and transported by the LDL transport system). This excess blood sugar causes damage to the proteins in the blood.
  • Co-enzyme Q10 synthesis is hampered by the blockage of the cholesterol enzyme pathway and this is needed to run cells and muscles. This can result in problems in the batteries of the cells and muscles (mitochondria).
  • Since the muscles can’t use CoQ10, they decide instead to use all of that extra fructose in the blood serum, which is now in plentiful (and damaging) supply because statins block it’s conversion into fat by the liver and it’s transport out of the liver by the LDL containers. When they do this, it’s without oxygen, so it’s anaerobic and lactic acid builds up, causing painful muscles.
  • The muscles do process the fructose, but they do so in a really inefficient way, requiring 19 times more energy to get the same muscle output-causing a sense of fatigue.
  • This alternative fuel system for the muscles leads to damaged muscle cells. After several years of lactic acid build-up due to statin use (the equivalent of being forced to run a constant marathon), the muscles “give out”. This author believes that this leads to a higher rate of severe muscle disorders like rhambdomyolysis as well as kidney failure (due to the renal system processing all of these muscle break down products). The author also believes that these muscle breakdown products can lead to nerve damage. She believes that this nerve damage can lead to a higher incidence of severe diseases such as ALS. My comments: These claims will take intensive study to see if they hold up.
  • The lack of cholesterol in the system eventually results in the heart and other tissues becoming dependent on an alternate fuel supply-sugar. There is also impaired uptake of glucose by the cells, which leads to the higher prevalence of diabetes that shows up in statin studies.
  • Cholesterol is critical for normal brain function. As mentioned already, the brain contains a lot of cholesterol as it makes up the important covering of the nerves (myelin sheath). Think of this as like the plastic covering of a wire, which insulates the wire and allows it to conduct electricity. This would explain the common reports of memory loss in patients taking statin drugs. A recent study that involved careful manual labeling of statin side effects from large studies showed a higher degree of neurological disorders in patients taking statins. These include neuropathy, parasthesia and neuralgia, and debilitating neurological diseases, ALS and Parkinson’s disease.
  • Longer life in one study that followed patients for 17 years was associated with higher cholesterol levels and full function of the enzymes that statin drugs inhibit. The author concludes that statins are a great way to fast track aging.
  • This author belives that eating foods rich in cholesterol and sulfur (like eggs) and sun exposure are ways to increase your cholesterol sulfate levels which can help clear arteries, not block them.

The upshot? Dr. Seneff believes that these statin side effects will eventually cause the recall of the drug class. Is she right? All I can say is that much of the science she explains makes sense and that we’ve seen what statin drugs can do to cells in culture and it isn’t pretty!

From: Cuppa Covfefe(@guest_1428881)  March 7, 2025 21:01

Statins can cause issues with the mitochondrial respiratory chain… lots of conflicts, interactions, and contra-indications when mito issues exist or are suspected…

-Gail

GC/wm

Dear KMAG: 20250317 Trump Won Three Times ❀ Open Topic


Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:

brevicaudate

adjective

  • short-tailed
  • having a stump tail
  • short-ended

Used in a sentence

The bobtailed cat is a brevicaudate breed that is known for its short tail.

Shown in a picture (Manx cat)

Shown in a video


MUSIC!

Some traditional Manx music!

This next one is excellent, but I can only give the link.

https://youtu.be/lLMULtULWkU


THE STUFF

Wait a minute! This is St. Patrick’s day! What’s Ireland up to?

Let’s see how well that ages!

Sometimes the brevicaudates need some assistance.

Or perhaps I mean assistance from other brevicaudates.

Juuuuuuust sayin’!

And remember…….

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


2025·03·15 We Will Have Justice Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Do We Still Need the Kang (Mis)Quote?

I’m still using the quote about winning the battles but losing the war. It seems like this doesn’t make sense right now given that we seem to be going from triumph to triumph.

On the contrary. This is the exception that proves the rule. The quote isn’t just a lament, it’s to point out why we can never seem to win.

You see, the RINOs cannot interfere and that is why, just for once, we are actually winning. And that is just one more piece of evidence (for the willfully blind) as to what I have been saying with that quote.

It stays.

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The 2020 election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Yes this is still true in spite of 2024. Fraud must be rooted out of our system and that hasn’t changed just because the fraud wasn’t enough to stop Trump winning a second term. Fraud WILL be ramped up as soon as we stop paying attention.

Otherwise, everything ends again in 2028. Or perhaps earlier if Trump is saddled with a Left/RINO congress in 2026, via fraud.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the Q Tree Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Political correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,911.50
Silver $32.60
Platinum $974.00
Palladium $934.00
Rhodium $6,000.00
FRNSI* 139.844-
Gold:Silver 89.310-

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,985.50
Silver $33.87
Platinum $1004.00
Palladium $988.00
Rhodium $5,700.00
FRNSI* 143.424-
Gold:Silver 88.146-

Gold blooped up over the 3000 dollar mark briefly Friday, but retreated a bit and closed at the level shown above (it actually closed a bit higher than that on Thursday). So of course the FRNSI is at an all-time weekly high. Silver did very well this last week; long overdue; gold is now worth over an ounce less silver than last week. Platinum shows some signs of life. Maybe it is only mostly dead.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

The Ides of March

Yes, our calendar is a direct descendant of the Roman calendar, particularly after Julius Caesar’s reforms.

That doesn’t mean we’d have any idea WTF we were looking at when looking at a Roman Calendar. They didn’t lay out months in tidy little rectangles like we do, with days numbered from 1-31. (Or 30, or 28 or fairly rarely 29.)

Nope they did something totally wacky, at least from our point of view.

The Kalends was the first day of the month. The Nones was the ninth day before the Ides. The Ides were, in turn the 15th day of full months (months of 31 days), or the 13th day of hollow months (months of 30 days) [Before Julius and Augustus Caesar, February had 30 days.] After some reforms months could have four different lengths and even the 31 day months were handled two different ways.

Counting through the days of the month, the 1st was “on the Kalends”. the 2nd was “the day after the Kalends” OR it could be called (in March, May, July and October–MMJO) the “Sixth day before the Nones” and for every other month the “Fourth day before the Nones”. Then count down each subsequent day until on the 7th (MMJO) or 5th (all others), was “On the Nones.” But beware because the “Third day before the Nones” was followed by “the day before the Nones” (there was no “second day before the Nones). The next day (8th or 6th) was “The day after the Nones.” OR that day could be called the 8th day before the Ides. Then the 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th, 3rd days before the Nones…and then skipping over “the second day before the Ides” to “the day before the Ides.” Then the Ides…which was on the 15th (MMJO) or 13th (all other months).

Then it gets tricky. For MMJO, the day after the Ides (the 16th) could be called “The day after the ides” or “the 17th day before the Kalends” Note, though that (for example) March 16 was called “the 14th day before the Kalends of April.” So April was being named…even though it was really still March! For January, August, and December, the “day after the Ides” (the 14th) was also “the 19th day before the Kalends”. For April, June, September, and November (all 30 days at the time), the “Day after the Ides” (the 14th) was “the 18th day before the Kalends”. For February (28 or 29 days) the “Day after the Ides” (the 14th) was either the 16th or 17th day before the Kalends of March”.

You would then count down to the second-to-last-day of the month and that would be the 3rd day of the Kalends, and the last day would be “the day before the kalends.”

Of course they did this in Latin, not English, so for example, they’d say “ante diem tertium decimum Kalendas” (the 13th day before the Kalends) and write it down as “a.d. XIII Kal.” since who wants to write all that out?

The day after Kalends, Nones, or Ides were considered “black” days and unlucky. (Though they were off one day for Julius Caesar.)

[Note before the Julian reforms, there were no thirty day months; there were MMJO (31 days), February (28 days) and everything else (29 days) and they followed the rules for MMJO, 28 day Februaries, and the 29 day February, respectively). When the caesars made January, August and December into 31 day months, they actually left the Ides in the same place relative to the Kalends (i.e., on what we call the 13th of the month) rather than moving the Ides to the 15th, to avoid messing up festival days.]

Somehow, they were able to use this insanely complex system and still have enough brainpower left to conquer the entire Mediterranean world.

And NO I don’t have this memorized, I had to look it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar. Otherwise I’d not have the brainpower left to butcher the topic of geology.

A Deeper Dive on Isotopes

Last time I described the atomic nucleus as it came to be known during the early 20th century, and I discussed radioactivity. I touched on isotopes a bit; time for a deeper dive.

As chemists worked to measure atomic weights for all known elements (painstaking and unglamorous work; the ones doing this are the unsung heroes of chemistry) it became apparent that most elements had atomic weights that were almost an integer multiple of the element with the lightest atomic weight: hydrogen (for example, taking hydrogen as 1 (not the currently used value!), helium comes in at 3.971, very close to 4. But there were a few oddballs, too, elements with a not-very-close multiple, like (and now I’ll use the current values, with hydrogen at 1.008, not 1.000) boron (10.81), neon (20.18), chlorine (35.45). Just eyeballing the list it looks like about a quarter of all elements are “off” like this.

It wasn’t until people started ionizing elements and sending the ions through a magnetic field to see how much their trajectories bent that we started to understand this. This was first done by J. J. Thomson (who had discovered the electron, and loved to play with magnets and charged particles) in 1912 with neon gas. Neon is atomic number 10, ten protons, and as I mentioned its atomic weight is 20.18. Thomson discovered that neon is actually mixture of two different things, one with an atomic weight of 20, another with an atomic weight of 22. The signal was weaker for 22, so he figured it neon was mostly the atomic-weight-twenty stuff.

These were both undeniably neon; there was no way to separate them chemically because they both behaved the same (which is to say, being totally unwilling to engage in chemical reactions; neon is a noble gas). They just weighed different. Thomson however had been brought up believing that atomic weight was an inherent property of an element, so he thought of it as two separate gases. We don’t think this any more. They’re both neon. And we now know there’s a very small amount of neon atoms with a mass of 21.

As more and more of these experiments happened, it became clear; if an element’s atomic weight was far off from an integer, it was a mix of these “isotopes.” Aston (who formulated the “whole number rule” for isotopic masses) showed in 1920 that chlorine’s 35.45 atomic weight was due to being a mixture of atoms with mass 35 and mass 37 units.

When talking about just the nucleus of an atom, we often use the term nuclide instead of isotope (which is the whole atom). It’s not a hard and fast rule but chemists will tend to use “isotope” and nuclear physicists including those researching fusion will be a bit more likely to say “nuclide.”

Again, the chemical behavior is nearly identical. In principle a heavier isotope should be slightly slower to react than an lighter one, but the practical difference is nil except in one case. Thus when it matters (and it usually doesn’t), chemists and physicists will write something like neon-20 or neon-22. When they can do so they will follow the formal convention: 20Ne or 22Ne. I am able to do that here (writing the post) but not in comments; but it’s such a pain to do so (wordpiss), that I will stick with writing either neon-20 or Ne-20.

And by the way, for our purposes here, it does matter. Quite a lot.

The one exception regarding chemical differences is the case of hydrogen, which usually has mass number of 1, but some few atoms have a mass number of 2. If you concentrate the mass-2 stuff, and use it to make water, you have heavy water, which even though it’s technically hydrogen monoxide just like tap water is, will kill you. (It also melts at 4 degrees Celsius so it’s possible to put a heavy water ice cube in a glass of water at 1 degree Celsius and it won’t melt. It will sink to the bottom, too, which is even weirder.) In fact for hydrogen and hydrogen alone, there are “special” names for the heavier isotopes; hydrogen-2 is called deuterium and (in this context) hydrogen-1 is called protium. There is also hydrogen-3, which is radioactive and is called tritium.

Once the neutron was discovered by James Chadwick in 1932, we got some clarity as to what was going on. Neutrons, it turns out are very slightly more massive than protons, We now know that neon-20, neon-21 and neon-22 all contain ten protons (neon has ten protons, by definition), but they contain 10, 11, and 12 neutrons, respectively, the total of the two numbers 10+10, 10+11, 10+12 gives you the mass number.

So what happens when you do this sort of analysis on other elements as found in nature? Fluorine (#9) has one isotope, F-19. Tin (#50) has no less than ten isotopes: Sn-112, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 122, and 124. The natural proportion for each of these ranges from 0.34 percent to 33 percent.

It is possible to create isotopes in the lab. So long as the number of neutrons isn’t too high or low, you’ll get a nucleus that hangs together for a while, perhaps even permanently. Otherwise the excess neutrons will “drip” off (fail to stick even momentarily) or if there are too few neutrons, a proton will “drip” off.

Between these bounds, the isotope will be intensely radioactive, less intensely radioactive, even less intensely radioactive, dang near stable, or actually stable. (Those are not “official” terms by the way.) And if you include all those made-in-a-lab-and-very-unstable isotopes the isotope counts go way up. Tritium is one of them for instance, and tin actually has isotopes ranging from 99 through 140.

Why do we need to make those highly radioactive isotopes in a lab? Because if there were any on earth originally, they have long since decayed away and none are left.

[If you poke around on wikipedia you may see references to something being “observationally stable.” That means an isotope that they believe on theoretical grounds is almost stable but it’s so close to stable they haven’t caught it decaying yet. In other words “we think this ought to be very very mildly radioactive–so mild we haven’t detected it yet so maybe it’s really stable after all.” Three of the ten tin isotopes I mentioned are “observationally stable”]

Because we are able to produce almost-arbitrary nuclides in the lab, we have pretty complete tables of nuclides–both a table with columns and a bunch of numbers in them, like you see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_tin, or nice graphical ones like this:

You can click on this to make it larger, but even there you can’t see what’s written in the boxes. Here is a link to a version that is 17,800 pixels across: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/NuclideMap.svg

Going across the bottom, you have the number of neutrons, going up you have the number of protons, as shown in this excerpt from the very lower left corner. Note that the same isotope number for different elements lie on a diagonal. (They also threw in a bare neutron, mass number 1, element zero.)

The colors indicate how the isotopes decay; black is a stable isotope. Blue is a β+ (positron) decay (or capturing an electron), orange is losing a proton (technically it’s “dripping” the proton), deep purple is dripping a neutron, yellow is alpha decay (note that 8Be alpha decays–and what’s left over is a helium nucleus, which is itself an alpha particle; so really it just splits in two). Green (visible at the other end of the chart) is spontaneous fission where a nucleus splits into two or more large pieces. Finally the pink or light purple squares like 3H are β (ordinary beta decay).

If you paid attention last time, you should be able to figure out what the isotope will turn into. For example 10Be undergoes beta decay, so it goes up one in charge (it now has 5 protons) but stays the same mass. It becomes boron-10, which is stable.

This chart also indicates half life. And I will more than likely be pasting in other pieces of it in future posts.

OK, so we have this list of all possible isotopes (and ones that arguably shouldn’t be considered isotopes because they “drip” when you try to create them). What do we see when we look “out there” on Earth? This is, after all, supposedly a series on geology, right?

The isotopes we see fall into three broad categories.

Stable isotopes. Every single stable isotope is found on Earth. Every last one.

Long lived isotopes. Isotopes over a certain half-life (which I will discuss below) will be found on Earth too. Again, every last one. (And by the way some of those half lives exceed present day estimates of the age of the earth by millions or even billions of times. And “observationally stable” isotopes, if they turn out to be radioactive, will have even longer half lives.)

Short lived isotopes. Some of the known short-lived isotopes can be found in nature. Here’s the thing though. In all of these cases, we can identify a natural process that is creating those isotopes, even at the present moment. For example, carbon-14 with a half life of about 5,760 years is being produced in the upper atmosphere by cosmic rays impacting nitrogen-14 nuclei. Uranium-234 has a half life of 245,500 years, and is created by uranium-238 decay (U-238 becomes thorium-234 due to an alpha decay, then Th-234 becomes protactinium-234 via beta decay, then Pa-234 becomes U-234 after another beta decay). All of those intermediate products, of course, we also detect in nature (and they have very short half lives of days or hours) so they fall into this category too. But, very important: We do not have any short lived isotopes we cannot account for this way.

This actually paints a picture: We have a situation where we have primordial isotopes–ones that apparently were always here on Earth, and the others, that weren’t. Since anything that could be a primordial nuclide based on being stable or having a long half life, is here, there’s no reason to suppose that some other nuclide that is now not found in nature wasn’t actually once here–only to have decayed completely away. Which means the Earth would have to be old enough for them to be gone by now.

OK, so what’s the dividing line between short lived and long lived isotopes? Somewhere between 100 and 700 million years.

I found this table: https://sites.astro.caltech.edu/~dperley/public/isotopetable.html which bills itself as all radio isotopes with half lives over 1000 years. I am going to excerpt everything between 1 million and one trillion years, below:

Selenium-79
Iron-60
Beryllium-10
Zircon-93
Curium-247
Gadolinium-150
Neptunium-237
Cesium-135
Technetium-97
Dysprosium-154
Bismuth-210m
Manganese-53
Technetium-98
Palladium-107
Hafnium-182
Lead-205
Curium-247
Iodine-129
Uranium-236
Niobium-92
Plutonium-244
Samarium-146
Uranium-236
Uranium-235
Potassium-40
Uranium-238
Rubidium-87
Thorium-232
Lutetium-176
Rhenium-187
Lanthanum-138
Samarium-147
Platinum-190

1,130,000
1,500,000
1,510,000
1,530,000
1,560,000
1,790,000
2,144,000
2,300,000
2,600,000
3,000,000
3,040,000
3,740,000
4,200,000
6,500,000
9,000,000
15,300,000
15,600,000
17,000,000
23,420,000
34,700,000
80,800,000
103,000,000
234,200,000
703,800,000
1,280,000,000
4,468,000,000
4,750,000,000
14,100,000,000
37,800,000,000
43,500,000,000
105,000,000,000
106,000,000,000
650,000,000,000

Uranium-236 is listed twice (I just noticed). The 234,200,000 figure should not be there, so I crossed it out.

We cannot find plutonium-244 in nature. We’ve tried, some claim to have found it, but it’s inconclusive. Likewise with samarium-146. But we have no trouble finding uranium-235…and were even able to send Hiroshima, Japan a care package of the stuff on August 6 of 1945, the first nuclear bomb to be detonated in anger.

As it happens, samarium-146, if any were present on our Earth 4.5 billion years ago, would have gone through over 40 half lives, which is to say less than a trillionth of it would be left today. Uranium-235 (which we know was here) has gone through six half lives, so over one percent of it is still left.

In other words, this situation is consistent with Earth being 4.5 billion or so years old, as dated by other methods. If there were significant amounts of Pu-244 or Sm-146 around, the Earth would have to be considerably younger than this (though it could still be in the billions of years) for that to make sense.

All told, there are 251 stable nuclides, and 35 long-lived primordial nuclides.

As it happens many of the primordial nuclides can be of use in radiometric dating. We’ll dive into that next time. It’s now 10:16 PM here and I’m sure people are getting antsy.